Nikki Haley dodges question on whether a man can become a woman

Actually, their lack of delusion is a part of their illness. If they were truly delusional and believed they actually were physically the gender they feel they are mentally, there would be no dysphoria. Bringing physical attributes closer to reality is the standard of care for treating this illness, but even they know it's not exactly the same. Republicans ought to be more compassionate.

 

In this society we have always distinguished a man from a woman. Things like business grants, business loans, taxes, sports, college loans, he’ll even insurance have all had differences in sex. So yes it matters as a society. It’s not authoritarian at all.

 

Republican concern for the issue is what's emotional. Science approximately reality. This isn't about reality. This is about a mental condition that doctors treat. Currently, doctors believe such patients benefit more from affirmation than trying to get over it.

 

Sports can make their own rules, as can insurance companies. Government doesn't need to worry about it. That's libertarian. The other things are all things conservatives are opposed to anyway (having differences by gender, that is).

 

I think the same way.
A man can have 3 vaginas and 10 breasts implanted, but he'll still remain man.

 

That’s fine but there is a push for us to also lie about said sex if claim to be otherwise what they were born with. Gender affirmation should not be pushed on society if they do not choose to call them opposite of their desired gender.

 

Medicine should be based on science, not private opinions. Men and women have different organs and hormones and our symptoms can mean very different things based on if we are male or female. A doctor/surgeon does not need to know what you identify as so much as what you actually are in order to treat prostate cancer.
You can respect their personal opinions but changing our whole society to function based on the opinions of a few minority makes little sense especially when it's so disfunctional.

 

I'm not arguing with the doctors. I'm arguing against the belief that wanting to be the opposite gender is the equivalent of being of the opposite gender. I'm willing to bet that the doctors you describe are in the minority, by the way. Transgenderism should be treated by psychiatrists, not surgeons.

 

Medicine is ideally based upon science, when available. When it's not available, it goes to clinical judgement and experience. But the question to be answered in medical science is NOT objective reality on what people are called culturally. The question is what is the diagnosis, and given this diagnosis what treatment approach leads to the best outcomes from the patient's perspective. So whether they are "really" women or not is beside the point. The question is how do you treat somebody with gender dysphoria. Currently, we think affirmation is the best approach (based upon available research and clinical judgement of experts). In terms of what parts are present and handling preventive care, the approach I am familiar with is "organ inventory." Both cis and trans women may lack a uterus (due to hysterectomy in the former case), and this data is needed so that we know how to handle something like postmenopausal bleeding. If they lack a uterus, there is no need to check a uterus for endometrial carcinoma. A man who has had his prostate removed does not cease to be a man anyway, and rising PSA means something very different in that kind of patient, so organ inventory is a really ideal approach for any kind of patient in terms of handling screening and treatment down the road.

 

Gay marriage is normal today.
Just like interracial marriage is normal today.

Being normal does not have to include the most.
Red heads are normal. Left handed is normal. But very much a minority. They are not abberations.

 

Not all are. Some are transgender towards men.
Some men are transgendered toward woman.

So no. There's no 100% of anything when it comes to living things and traits. Far far to many variables in most living things.

According to a definition YOU supplied, it includes more than one definition. AS most words often do.

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woman
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A1 [ C ]
an adult female human being:

an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth:

 

Yes, a transgender man can have surgery to look more woman. And be more in line with their brain function.
As science shows.

 

I don't think republicans have a problem with transgenders. The problem is with their politicization and the desire to put them ahead of others. Compassion is fine. Treatment is also fine as long as it isn't surgical or chemical. The goal should be get these people to live with their gender with some degree of happiness, not to help them dig into it more deeply.

 

Obviously but that isn't the issue.

 

It is accepted today but it is still not normal.

 

Of course not.

 

The "gender they feel they are mentally" isn't "reality". The reality of what they have between their legs is irrelevant to this 21st century conception of 'gender". Non binary or gender fluid has become more prevalent among the new sufferers of gender dysphoria. Trans women with male genitalia has become more prevalent than transwomen without. Trans men without surgically created male genitalia is more prevalent than trans men with such genitalia.

Since there is no evidence whatsoever that surgical transition does anything to cure gender dysphoria, pushing surgical transitions is macabre. Just as John Money's theories this is all based upon is macabre.

 

It’s not normal, it’s legal.

 

I bet for most it is. Else this would not be a topic.

 

It's also normal. NO one but a few older folks, even care whom marries whom.
It's now as normal as interracial marriages.

 

So gays getting married today is as normal as interracial marriages are and have been for a couple of decades.

 

What is this longing to be considered "normal"? Reminded of "Virtually Normal" written by Andrew Sullivan back in the 90s, desperately seeking normalcy status for gays, achievable with legalized gay marriage. And the scathing rebuke in response "The Trouble With Normal" by Michael Warner.

 

The function of red hair is identical to that of brown hair. A left hand can function equal to a right hand. And an interracial marriage of opposite sex functions the same as a same race marriage of the opposite sex. In Loving v Virginia the marriage laws couldnt stand because they prevented Mr and Mrs Loving from living together as husband and wife to each other. Living as a mother and father to their children. To quote the supreme court, "Marriage and procreation are fundamental to the very existence and survival of the race." Virginia marriage laws prevented Mr and Mrs Loving exercising this fundamental right.
Gay marriage has nothing to do with any of that and is instead about winning more "respect and dignity" for gays.

 

So people who post in a political hack website are "most?"