Nikki Haley dodges question on whether a man can become a woman

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  1. CornPop

    CornPop Well-Known Member

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    You're proving yourself wrong. A woman is a female. A female is a woman and/or being of the sex that can bear young or produce eggs. Woman and Female are nouns. Trans/transgender are adjectives that are used to describe a person whose gender identity doesn't match their sex. The use of the trans/transgender qualifier changes the noun's meaning. For example, a transgender woman is a male whose identity is that of a woman/female. It is not an insult to say a transgender woman is a male whose gender identity is that of a woman. It's just basic facts.

    Definition of woman: an adult female person
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/woman

    Definition of female: of, relating to, or being the sex that typically has the capacity to bear young or produce eggs
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/female

    Or the Oxford Learner's Dictionary for those who need to learn the definition of woman such as Ketanji Brown Jackson...

    Woman: an adult female human; female humans in general; etc
    https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/woman?q=woman

    Female: being a woman or a girl; belonging to the sex that can lay eggs or give birth to babies; of women; typical of women; affecting women
    https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/female_1?q=female
     
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    Nope, apparently you are. You are changing the definition of female. Here it is again.

    female /fē′māl″/
    adjective
    1. Of or denoting the sex that produces ova or bears young.


    Notice, no mention of adult or woman.

    Why haven't you actually given the definition of woman yet? Just female.
     
  3. Joe knows

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    This thread is not about the definition of a woman. Not to mention that has already been hacked out and we have came to the conclusion that some would rather pay more attention to feelings than scientific differences to sex. When was the last time anything related to the OP was even discussed? Quit derailing the thread.
     
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    I cannot help you if you cannot or choose not to read what I posted. This conversation is done. I have provided you the definition of both "woman" and "female". Several times.

    Good luck to you kid.
     
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    Your post is disingenuous. Woman was defined at the very top of the post you're responding to. Why are you saying this when it is blatantly untrue?

    For the millionth time... a woman is an adult human female. A female is someone of the sex who bears offspring or produces eggs. This is not hard. We learned this in elementary school.

    The only reason someone pretends to have "forgotten" this is to virtue signal and express how woke they are. But, it just makes the person sound like they flunked out of elementary school. That's what Justice Jackson was ridiculed for it.
     
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    You are dealing with a postmodernist.

    It considers "reality" to be a mental construct.[13] Postmodernism rejects the possibility of unmediated reality or objectively-rational knowledge, asserting that all interpretations are contingent on the perspective from which they are made;[5] claims to objective fact are dismissed as naive realism.[4]

    Thats why they work so hard to construct a different definition.
     
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    why don’t guys think Haley wouldn’t answer the question on if she thought a man can become a woman?
     
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    I haven't followed her campaign closely, but I imagine she was virtue signaling for the political middle. I'm sure she has an opinion, but she's afraid to say it out loud due to fear of losing support from either side. So, in short, fear.

    It's not hard to say regarding social identity; a man can present themselves as a woman to match how they feel inside. But that would alienate her from the extremists on either end, and she needs all the support she can get right now.
     
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    I read what you posted. It doesn't pertain to what a woman is or how it's defined.

    All you've presented is the definition of female. Which may or may not be a woman. Plants can be female.

    You've been repeatedly asked for the definition of woman and have yet to do so.
    You keep deflecting to female.
     
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    Allow me to help. I think it will be impossible for you to ignore the reality of this discussion now. Please stop misconstruing his posts. Woman has been defined for you a million times in this thread. The definition of female isn't "a human female." That's absurd and not how definitions work. @GrayMan has been extremely patient with you; it's only fair to show him the respect of not misconstruing his posts.

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    https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/woman

    https://www.bing.com/search?q=define+woman&setmkt=en-US&PC=EMMX01&form=LWS002&scope=web

    I haven't deflected to female. A woman is defined as a "human adult female". See links above.

    There are three attributes to what defines a woman,

    1) adult as opposed to a child
    2) human as opposed to bovine or chicken
    3) female as opposed to a male


    Examples of how languages works for consistency

    Woman is an adult female (human)
    Cow is an adult female (bovine)
    Hen is an adult female (Chicken)

    Man is an adult male (human)
    Bull is an adult male (bovine)
    Rooster is an adult male (chicken)
     
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    Here's your 1st link definition.

    an adult female human being:
    She's a really nice woman.
    A woman and two men were arrested the day after the explosion.
    Women first got the vote in Britain in 1918.
    She is Ireland's first woman (= female) president.


    an adult who lives and identifies as female though they may have been said to have a different sex at birth:
    She was the first trans woman elected to a national office.
    Mary is a woman who was assigned male at birth.
     
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    Because she was in front of a crowd of Republicans that she wants a vote from. A crowd that does not believe a man can become a woman.
     
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    A man who identifies as producing ova is not correctly identifying themselves.

    Identifying as someone who produces ova when your body was never meant or capable of producing ova is denying reality and has no basis in science.
     
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    I believe that may be one of the best answers there is. I also find it beyond coincidental that women seem to have the hardest time with questions like these.
     
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    I totally agree and likely has no basis to demand anything from a society when they clearly support lies over truth. Don’t let that person push you into a definition argument anyway. That’s not even part of the topic.
     
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    :applause::applause::applause:
     
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    If Mary has a penis at birth and has no scientific means as pointing that he is a female then it’s nothing other than cosmetic surgery.

    If there is no scientific chromosome package, functional reproductive organs, or physical trait at all that can point to any one individual as being a woman then you arguing womanhood is nothing more than a figment of the imagination.


    That’s what we are saying.. There is literally no possible way for a man to become a woman. Likewise no woman can become a man.

    can we get back on topic now?
     
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    A female is a person who produces ova and a male is one who produces sperm to cause the beginning of the human life cycle. It doesn't need a back up. It is what it is. Don't bother to tell me your definition. It doesn't matter.
     
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    Correct. That would be called a transgender woman. Not a man.
    And per your definition of woman, fits right in with the definition.
     
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    You'd be wrong per the definition @GrayMan provided.
    That person would be called transgender.

    We are on topic. Since the OP is about Haley not stating what a woman is.
    Because only @GrayMan has provided the defintion and still won't believe what it says.
     
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    The topic isn't female. It's about what a Woman is.
    Many women are females, but not 100% of them.

    Don't go by my definition, go by the definition @GrayMan provided a few posts back.

    I am sure definitions don't matter to some. But that is those people's problem. And why they would be confused.
     
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    No the topic is Haley not answering if a man can become a woman. It has nothing to do with the definition of a woman. I would suggest the thread on judge Jackson if you want to discuss that.
     
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    Because a woman is not easily defined. Without a definition, it can't be answered.
     
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    It can be answered. It’s a question to her personal beliefs. It’s not about your definition or anyone else’s. It’s about her belief and you successfully derailed my thread. The OP hasn’t been discussed since the first page because of you and your persistence to not accept others point of view and argue with them about their definition of a woman when that’s not the subject at all.
     

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