In Trump's first criminal trial, set for 3/25, judge rules jury will be anonymous for safety reasons

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  1. Bush Lawyer

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    I know there will be older threads on this but I thought there was need for a new one as this case is not only about 14 days away.

    So, the Jury is to be protected and before there are wails, please note the protection order was made BY CONSENT.

    Why is this case significant and what impact does it have on your democracy.

    Well, at its base I guess is the notion that when you go to vote, you are entitled to know who you are voting for, and if the candidate has gone out of his way by, for example, paying hush money to prostitutes to hide his infidelity with them against his Wife, then your vote is being corrupted.

    To adopt and adapt an expression used in another context, it renders your vote to be the fruit of a poisoned tree.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    And the Democrats will do everything they can (legal, or not) to make sure Trump gets convicted.

    That's not what the case is about, but it's funny that you think it is.
     
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    These things often end up not being so anonymous.

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    Democrats don’t have to do anything illegal to convict trump — he did that himself.
     
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    A must with the Ultra MAGA mob and the targeting by the "flagbearer".
     
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    You let us know when you find something illegal done to convict him
     
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    Is there still an adversarial jury selection process?
     
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  8. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    Nothing in that Order would suggest otherwise.
     
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    Wild Bill Kelsoe Well-Known Member

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    This trial isn't legal.
     
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    Yeh I keep hearing that from your side — and trump keeps losing.
     
  11. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    Ok, explain to the class how Trump can be prosecuted in New York for violating state election finance laws, when state EFL laws only apply to state elections.

    And...go!
     
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    Because state law applies to federal elections also.

    https://elections.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2023/08/2023electionlaw.pdf

    If you think Trump, is exempt, please explain.
     
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    WRONG!
    B/c if it "wasn't legal"...then, it wouldn't be happening....
     
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    Riiiight!...lol
     
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    the real question is... would Trump be punished if he mentioned their names publicly

    everyone knows Trump should not do it, that it is a crime.... but is there any teeth to it if he does it
     
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    There's a campaign finance section in the mentioned link. Sorry.
     
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    He won't. His believers everything he does is fair. Some people said if jurors/witnsseses get threatened, that's what witness protection is for and they can just get new identities after the trial.
     
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    Ok, post the relevant section.
     
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    How would he know their names?
     
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    OK, WBK, are you aware of what a Trump U law degree is worth or do you just like making any claim and then running with it? The question, based on observation re your posts, is multiple choice ;)!
     
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    his lawyer will know and could share
     
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    Good grief…the desperation…!
     
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    Explain to the class how Trump violated state campaign finance laws, while engaging in a Federal campaign.
     
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    How will his lawyer know? His lawyer doesn't need to knynanes, just juror numbers: juror #1, juror #2, etc
     

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