Trump wants to debate Biden "ANYTIME, ANYWHERE, ANYPLACE!"

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  1. mamooth

    mamooth Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We know how this ends. Same way it's always ended for the past few years.

    The Democrats win easily when the election comes, despite the polls predicting a red wave, and the MSM universally proclaiming that the DemocratsAreDoomed.
     
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  2. Polydectes

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    I yeah the GOP is just as **** as Democrats I agree.
     
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    Some DEMS are scum.
    Looking at you Menendez.
    BUT
    Even the scummiest DEMS look to improve life for the people.
    As opposed to the SCUM GOP which seeks only to protect the elite.
     
  4. Polydectes

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    Politicians cannot improve in life. The only people capable of that are the people living the life.

    I don't look at politicians to do things for me. It's more like the exist to take things away from it.

    If they really cared about people they would resign.

    If you want to worship them as the light and the holy beacon that you must always show reverence for that's your business. I'm not in that cult I'm an apostate.

    Go ahead and look to other people to make your life better I'm sure you'll get there someday.
     
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    Got streets in your town?
    Thank politicians
    Got police and fire services?
    Thank politicians
    Got public water and sewer services?
    Thank politicians
    Fly on an airplane?
    Thank politicians

    You are a perfect example of what I mean when I say
    "When ideology becomes theology."
    Your theology blinds you to reality.
     
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  7. Polydectes

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    no I have the streets public water and sewer service because of their developers the only things that politicians did was help them navigate the rules that they made.

    Planes being able to fly is because people make planes and people engineered planes politicians weren't involved in that at all in fact they're just an encumbrance.

    Let's look at the TSA. They have a 95% failure rate and it seems only a position that exists so that pedophiles can cop a feel on children. So that's politicians for you making sure a pedophile has a victim.
    You're the one looking at politicians as saviors they make the planes fly they make the streets work and this is you.

    You worship these drug users pedophiles and spousal abusers. You need them to make your life better.

    To me your viewpoint looks like theology.

    I see them as a necessary evil you see them as your lord and savior.
     
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    When ideology becomes theology.
    You are a prime example of one blinded by his theology.

    And as with all religions, yours cannot stand the light of actual factual truth.
     
  9. Polydectes

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    this is a problem you are having.

    You look at politicians as though they are your salvation. As though they are the saviors. Your ideology has become your theology.
    I think he just saying this because you have nothing else. You can't explain how distrusting government is a theology. You just disagree with it and can't figure out why.
    The truth that politicians think about that care about you so much I like your friends right?

    The truth isn't that they just do a job and most of them do it poorly.

    No they listen to your prayers and they care about you right?
     
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    I'm not the one praying to his Cheeto God to save him from the Brown people.
    That would be you.

    I'm not the one praying that women will be enslaved
    That's you.

    Theology ignores fact.
    Your ignore fact.
     
  11. Polydectes

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    you have to frame people as mindless worshipers because you can't accept the fact that people might disagree with you.

    This is narcissism.
    how would you know what I say in my prayers? How would you know who I pray to or if I even pray at all?

    You're just saying this out of frustration you're attacking me because you have nothing else
    So called fact that somebody that doesn't know me really cares about me and really tries to improve my life without even asking me what I need?

    The only thing you claimed is that politicians make your life better you can't say how you just give platitudes and then attack anyone who doesn't agree with you.
     
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    People may believe as they wish.
    BUT
    When they try to force others to comply with their beliefs through the use of the force of government...
    Then I choose to point out the hypocrisy of their acts and the stupidity of their beliefs.

    Abortion
    Blue laws
    Church exemption from taxes are just a few examples.
     
  13. Polydectes

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    well what kind of seeing eye to eye on this, this is why I don't like politicians. Most of the time because of most of what they do let's try to force other people to comply with beliefs through use of force of government.

    It doesn't matter what part you're in this happens.

    here we're on the same page too. I think it's stupid to believe that we should just let any and all manner of people coming through the border.
    Yeah blue eyes are stupid and I think maybe we should probably consider enforcing text on churches at least certain churches.

    The other belief that government tries to force on me is that I shouldn't have a certain types of firearms, because they invent spooky words for them and scare people who don't know anything.

    Another one is saying who I can and can't marry. And it's been Democrats and Republicans that are trying to dictate that I couldn't marry my partner.

    So they aren't trying to make my life better than trying to make it worse to adhere to their view point.
     
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    If people who own those types of firearms would keep them under control there'd be no issue.
    BUT
    It is a fact that 100% of mass murders and 100% of all guns used by criminals came from "Law abiding" gun
    owners.

    You are part of the problem, since you refuse to address the problem, people will use government since protecting the public is a primary function of government.

    Unless you're trying to marry a 12 year old, forcing someone to marry you, or lining up your 4th spouse your argument is with the Religious Right and that means the GOP.
     
  15. Polydectes

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    it's not my responsibility to control criminals and I shouldn't lose any of my rights because law enforcement is incompetent.
    when I came out of this gay and got a same-sex partner. People on the right did everything to try and convince me that I was part of the problem that I was some point in this slippery slope that is tearing away at the moral fabric of the country so they said the exact same thing you just said just about something else.

    So you're a direct copy of a GOP religious right nut bar just with a different morality
    I already explained that I don't agree with this affection I think they're exactly like you.

    In fact I've heard religious right GOP types tell me the exact same thing you told me that I'm part of the problem.

    This is because you just like your GOP members Democrats or whatever it's all the same **** must force your beliefs on me.

    I don't know why you don't like the GOP you're an exact copy of them. You're doing the exact same thing they did. You made almost a word for word duplicate of their argument against my sexuality just switch around a few nouns and it's the same thing.

    When all of you people worship at the same altar it's kind of hypocritical to tell me that I do just because I'm skeptical of people that say the exact same thing about different things.
     
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    If you're going to be stupid...

    You actually think your AR is worth giving away your partner?

    Perhaps a review of your priorities is in order.
     
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    I understand your frustration.
    I've had both an AR 15 and a marriage with my partner for almost a decade.

    You want to take one away.
    I'm not forced to choose. False dichotomies are tools of people who wish to force their beliefs on me.

    Don't be exactly what you preach against and maybe you'll be less frustrated with your false dichotomies being falsified.
     
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    I would take away neither.
    But the people you stand with would.
    But I guess your gun is more important than your relationship.
     
  19. Polydectes

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    Then you are more like me than politicians. I support liberty

    No they wouldn't. I didn't stand with those people. You projected that onto me.
    All my rights are important to me it's only politicians that try and make me choose. The people you think make your life better.

    I'm just glad that are mostly neutered by the Constitution.
     
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    ????

    really you haven't seen news from FL, TN, LA...

    You can lie to you but you can't lie to me.
     
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    You’re playing games again. This one is the deliberately obtuse one. A favorite with the Trump crowd.

    You were bragging that Biden won’t debate Trump because Trump would wipe the floor with him.

    So, I posted a prime piece of how that would look from the last Presidential debate.

    Then, while you were busy boosting Tucker Carlson, I provided you with the reason he was fired. Promoting the big lie was part of it.

    I didn’t really need to explain any of that to you. You got it the first time.

    Which is why you’re making a big show of pretending not to.
     
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    I learned something new. Evidently his firing was part of the Dominion settlement.

    https://www.businessinsider.com/dominion-fox-news-deal-tucker-carlson-firing-settlement-2023-5

    $787 million settlement with Fox News rested on an unwritten agreement to fire Tucker Carlson: Variety
     
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    It is not unreasonable to want to see the President debate, but the sexual abuser/cry baby loser has demonstrated that he is incapable of debating.

    He brazenly lies, brays his nonsense even when it is his opponent's turn to speak, whines about his paranoid delusions, raving inanely about how America's institutions - democratic elections, law enforcement, and our system of jurisprudence - are all very, very mean to him.

    If there were debate ground rules strictly enforced, such as every interruption of normal civil discourse incurring a swift kick up the arse, it would be a sprightly event well worth staging.
     
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    I've already put your silliness to bed. See post #171.
     

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