Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza

The idea that your history justifies genocide today is unbelievably nonsense - besides being the scrapings from the bottom of the morality bucket.

 

Israeli stole and KEPT Palestinians land in the same way as the US stole and KEPT Indians and Mexican land, in the same way as the Poland stole and KEPT Germans land, in the same way as the Czechoslovakia stole and KEPT German land, in the same way as the India stole and KEPT Pakistan land, and there are more examples.

How Israeli stole, and KEPT Palestinians land?
In 1947 UN declared division of Palestine on Jewish and Arabs part. Jews accepted division, Arabs didn't accepted and attacked Israel. Jews won, Arabs lost. Arabs stole and KEPT land which by UN was allocated to Israel and Israel stole and KEPT land which by UN was allocated to Arabs - normal laws of war.

After 6 days war Israel tried to return conquered territories in exchange for peace - the answer was famous The Three Noes of Khartoum: no peace with Israel, no recognition of Israel, no negotiations with it.

When Rabin, Barak and Olmert agreed to Palestinian state and tried to return more than 80% of conquered territories in return for peace - the Palestinian answer was suicide bombers in Israelis street, buses and restaurants.

Even now - Israel withdrew from Gaza allowing there self rule - and what Palestinians did in Gaza did? They elected Hamas, organization which wrote in its chapter that they it will never make peace with Israel, that their objective is to destroy Israel and to create Muslim Califate, where women, gays, apostates, Christians and atheists will have the same rights as described in Sharia law.

 

I am backing up Israel. I want the Palestinians to be deported. Their well being and the well being of the Israelis are incomparable. There is nothing to negotiate. There can be no compromise.

 

I'm glad. I hope the plan works. The Jews need land to settle in.

 

Why do you despise Palestinians so much that you support the theft of their land and homes?

 

Abbas was abandoned by the people of Gaza, who elected Hamas, and thereby chose war.

 

I love Israel and want it to be a nation state with a distinctly Jewish character.

 

And what of the Palestinians who already live there? You are fine with ethnic cleansing I suppose?

 

So, in your opinion, the ends justify the means?

 

Yes.

His insistence on negotiation only has been a crushingly total failure.

Once Israel and the US make that point for a couple decades, what do YOU think the reaction of the population will be?

 

Abbas (like Arafat previously) failed to act effectively against Palestinian terrorists, despite ample US financing, assistance and training for his personnel.
And if you think the population turned on him because he was not belligerent enough then you're actually making my case for me.

 

I sincerely hope that what we are seeing is NOT "Jewish character".

There are major demonstrations against the current regime, so maybe they can help end Israel's genocide in Palestine.

I'd point out, though, that the settlers occupying stolen land in West Bank are not some government, but are every day Israelis. And, they have no problem with shooting Palestinians.

Is THAT part of the "distinctly Jewish character" you hope for?1

It certainly doesn't match what I see in my Jewish friends.

 

There is no comparison between President Abbas and Arafat. That is a vile insult at best, showing more about you than them.

The IDF has considered President Abbas to be a fundamental asset in reducing violence, and thus has allowed Abbas weapons that were previously considered illegal.

It is a FACT that the loss of his popularity came from the failure of his methods to slow the loss of Palestinian land or make any other form of progress.

The US arms sent to West Bank were exclusively for his own guard. The US had NO interest in forming a West Bank military that could be helpful in slowing the massive theft of Palestinian land by Israel.

In other words, why should Palestinians like President Abbas? He failed to slow the onslaught of Israel and the USA by choosing a path of negotiation.

 

Since 1993, the U.S. government has provided more than $7.6 billion in bilateral assistance to Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza. This assistance, primarily through the Economic Support Fund, supports projects in areas including economic growth and recovery.Dec 7, 2023

West Bank and Gaza Aid: USAID Generally Ensured ... - GAO

United States security assistance to the Palestinian National Authority. The United States has provided security assistance to the Palestinian Authority (PA) since the mid-1990s. After the Oslo Accords formed the PA, the U.S. gave aid on an ad hoc basis, often covertly at the outset.

United States security assistance to the Palestinian National ...

 

Gaza can't have "economic growth and recovery" during Israel's blockade. That's just nonsense.

Beyond that, aid doesn't change the FACT that the US has protected Israel in its steady and continuing steps toward stealing the land from under the feet of Palestinians.

Aid we gave West Bank had NOTHING to do with protecting the rights of West Bank citizens.

I don't know what you're trying to argue, but the fact remains that the USA has supported Israel's ethnic cleansing of West Bank and the barricade of Gaza, which is an act of war ongoing for decades.

Today, Israel claims they are targeting Hamas. But, they kill aid workers, reporters and mass numbers of civilians as we've seen.

And, how could they NOT?? We give them 2,000 pound bombs designed to take out whole city blocks. There is nothing "targeted" about dropping 2,000 pound bombs on a city or on an encampment of refugees.

YOU are still attempting to justify America's policy of genocide.

 

Hamas sowed the wind and now reaps the whirlwind. Hamas is responsible for every non-combatant death.
And you have no idea what you're talking about regarding the US and the PA on the West Bank. Brave Americans worked for decades to help the PA to fulfill their assigned mission.

 

Gaza has been enduring the war of Israel for 20 YEARS.

And, YOU think genocide is a great solution!!

As for West Bank, the USA has protected and encouraged Israel to bulldoze the homes of the Palestinians living there and to rule areas they take using Israeli military law in which West Bank Palestinians have zero representation - the injustice that motivated our own revolutionary war.

How soon we forget!

 

Yes I am.

 

That depends on the ends and the means.

During history and pre history superior demographics have displaced inferior demographics. The process has benefited human evolution and the advancements in civilization.

 

The USA was a collection of barely coherent colonies that believed that having representation in their government was a fundamental right, and went to war over that.

Were we wrong?

 

Disgusting. You are supporting an action of pure evil, far worse than what Hamas did on October 7th. I can't imagine wishing such evil on innocent men, women, and children. At least you are honest, I guess.

 

People being moved to safety because they’re too stupid to seek it on their own is an evil worse than torture, rape and murder?

lol. Okay buddy.

 

The only torture, rape, and murder is being conducted by the IDF as we speak. they are not "safely moving" anybody. They are bombing the **** out of them and starving the entire population to death. Yes, it is FAR worse than what Hamas did.

 

You know this because you’re part of Hamas?