Israeli plan to ethnically cleanse Gaza

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  1. Jack Hays

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    And yet:
    “War is cruelty. There's no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over.”
    ― William Tecumseh Sherman
     
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    The Palestinians are the authors of their own calamity.
     
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    It's not the first time.
     
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    Did he round up the civilians and starve them to death?

    I'm just curious how you think your comment made ANY senses, given that you are trying to justify genocide.
     
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    He burned their homes and crops, and slaughtered their animals, so yes.
     
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    What did President Abbas do to justify Israel's assault?

    Given that Israel absolutely refused negotiations, what do YOU think he should have done to stop the illegal Israeli aggression?
     
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    Nope.
     
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    Yeah, well, that doesn't seem to work in this case, does it? The conflict is only getting worse, and is spawning in a whole new generation of extremists, wanting revenge for the senseless slaughter and starvation of their family and friends. Israel has shot themselves in the foot. Sherman's quote does not apply in this sort of war, especially in this day and age of mass communications and the internet, when the entire world can see that cruelty. It only turns the world against Israel, and fuels support for Palestine.
     
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    Israel is not the party who has refused negotiations.
     
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    Sherman's insight remains as powerful as ever.
     
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    Study and get back to me.
     
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    JOSH: “The only torture, rape, and murder is being conducted by the IDF as we speak.”

    Direct quote. Uh oh.


    So you can’t make any kind of a historical comparison to even remotely substantiate your point. It’s endless repetition of Hamas propaganda and that’s all you base your ideas on. How sad. How utterly pathetic
     
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    Yes, meaning AT THIS TIME. That is what 'as we speak' means. That statement has nothing to do with what Hamas did on October 7th. The IDF has been doing it ever since October 7th, and has murdered around 25 times as many as Hamas did, going FAR beyond what would be considered as justified many times over.
     
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    The rape stories about the October terrorist attack came out of an NYT reporter who has since been identified as Israeli undercover.

    Those reports were investigated, found to be false, and retracted by NYT.
     
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    what does popular opinion, which you can’t even prove, have to do with facts?
     
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    Israel has been on a tear.

    - totally destroying more hospitals and killing patients
    - killing those waiting at aid trucks
    - denying food truck entry at borders
    - killing literally hundreds of aid workers and reporters
    - shutting down news outlets
    - killing top Iranian military in Syria
    - killing Palestinians in West Bank
    - stealing new tracks of West Bank land for new illegal settlements - the largest ever such thefts along with the needed ethnic cleansing
    - failing to slow settlement murderers from shooting Palestinian men, women and children for doing no more than walking.

    The level of Netanyahu's criminality is rising rapidly.

    He's clearly totally out of control, as is the IDF, Israelis in the West Bank, and the expansion of the war to the North.
     
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    Thank you for the review of Hamas propaganda talking points.
     
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    Israel hasn’t killed 30,000 as we speak. You have no idea how many have died as we speak, and no idea how many Hamas has killed while we speak. “Only the IDF has killed, tortured and murdered” whether as we speak or not is a patently ridiculous statement. Own it.
     
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    You should learn how to google better. Even the UN disagrees with you.

    “U.N. finds 'clear and convincing' information that hostages have been raped in Gaza”

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna141789

    Why don’t you go back to denying the Holocaust, it misses you.
     
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    Every one of those is true. I have no idea what Hamas says about the conduct of this war.

    One can certainly find video released by Hamas that shows their own operations - containing no argument, no politics, no voice just vid showing short pieces of operations.
     
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    There’s a reason you’re contextualizing precisely jack crap. Cause context makes the reality look really bad for you.
     
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    I'm sure you believe they are true.
     
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    I clearly identified the false statements concerning the Oct terrorist event.

    And, there are testimonies of IDF rapes, too - I just don't find enough corroboration.
     
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    Which one do you doubt?
     
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    All are the fruits of Hamas aggression and the Hamas SOP of embedding their fighters among civilians.
     

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