Trump or Biden?

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Would you vote for Trump or Biden ? (and if possible give a reason)

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  1. robini123

    robini123 Well-Known Member

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    I am curious. As Trump failed to secure the border when he was president, what makes you think he will succeed if he is elected again?

    If I actually thought Trump would secure the border he would have my support on that. But I don’t think he can. The solution requires bipartisanship which is practically taboo in this political climate. Trump is about divide and conquer which dooms his border plan once he wins the election.
     
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    The one thing Republicans were willing to go bi-partisan on tanked by T**** and yet he campaigns on that it wasn't done.
    Mirrors. It must be something to do with mirrors.
     
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    Lols! When Trump was elected in 2016 there were protests but the most violent things were those stupid “Pink *****” hats, which I will agree were an offence to the eyes but hardly in the same ball game as Jan 6
     
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    Nah! Combination of wishful thinking and rose coloured glasses. Trump always was a lazy SOB which is why he left so much to Jarvanka but now hw won’t have them and he is rapidly deteriorating cognitively so that will leave everything to the unelected twonks behind project 2025
     
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    I count 2 complete misconceptions several out and out Trump lies and a couple of flat out conspiracy theories.
     
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    Disagree. There are other candidates of which I am free to vote for. You seem the have bought into the idea one can and should only vote for one of the two “major” parties. I believe in being my own person and voting how I choose instead of how I’m “supposed” to.
     
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    Or not..

    Thousands protesting Donald Trump’s victory in the presidential election took to the streets for a third night of demonstrations and vigils in several US cities.

    An anti-Trump rally in Portland, Oregon, revved up as protesters confronted police Thursday night. What started out as a peaceful march, with more than 4,000 people, quickly turned violent.

    Over the course of the evening, “anarchists” in the crowd threw objects at officers, vandalized local businesses and damaged cars, Portland Police Sgt. Pete Simpson said.

    The mood in the streets where protesters marched was as varied as the locations.

    Some of the roughly 1,000 protesters in Oakland broke store windows, left graffiti on buildings and threw M-80 firecrackers, Molotov cocktails and bottles at police officers, authorities said.

    Eleven people were arrested in Oakland, including someone who had seven Molotov cocktails in his possession, police said. Some of those arrested are accused of assaulting police officers.
     
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    Still think tiki torches and Jan 6 was worse. Plus you have at least one clear example of the Boogaloo Bois deliberately stirring trouble

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    https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2023/04/25/quantifying-the-rise-of-americas-far-right
     
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    If you are an American citizen, Joe Biden is putting you in the back of bus for the benefit of the illegals he is inviting into the country. That alone is enough of a reason to vote against him. It is ample grounds for impeachment, but at this point that is a waste of time.

    Beyond that, Biden is not in charge. He is a puppet with an impaired brain. The far left of the Democrat Party controls him, and that's why they him reelected.

    Trump is a flawed candidate, but given the cards the voters have been dealt, he is the only option. Voting third party because you are dissatisfied with Biden is a vote for Biden.
     
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    If I had a vote there I would certainly vote for Trump. I dont doubt that he has a lot of weaknesses and has even criminal tendencies himself, but the woke postcolonial agenda leads to outright destruction and he seems to be the only one with the guts to stop them.

    You see this scum celebrating on Octobre the 7th with sadistic joy, while people are hacked to death, while people are tortured while people are raped that has no right to exist in the eyes of these low-lifes. You have the ideologic masterminds behind that in congress



    If Trump is the only one putting up serious resistance against this cancer, I hope the voter will give him a mandate to do so.
     
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    Trump would be better off returning to his business empire than running for President, yet he loves our country enough to almost lose it all due the democrat's perpetual witch hunts to keep him out of the WH. Biden will lose. The only platform he can run on is: Orange man bad!
     
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    Why is it a vote for Biden? Why can't it be a vote for Trump? I've always noticed conservatives say it's a vote for the Dem candidate while liberals say it's a vote for the Repub candidate. Well...which is it?
     
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    go ahead and prove it-bet you cannot

    is Australia better off having Biden as president of the USA?
     
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    Depends on which Party you usually vote for. To vote for anyone outside your Party affiliation is considered a wasted vote because the candidates of the established Party expects and usually need it.
     
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    Well, up until last three elections I had voted Repub. Last election Biden won my state by 1.2M votes. The number of 3rd party votes was 81K. So my third party vote impacted no one.
     
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    Voters seem to be leaning toward Trump.

    After Bribed Joe won a rigged election, and 'after four felony indictments and all manner of other legal troubles, after years of surveys showing solid majorities of Americans widely dislike Donald Trump and after feuds with Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis that have yet to heal, it’s seven months to Election Day and the polls consistently show Trump leading Biden. How did Bribed Joe screw this up this badly?'

    Well, Obama warned that Bribed Joe has a real 'ability' to screw things up.

    'The latest Wall Street Journal poll shows Trump leading by 2 to 8 points in each of six battleground states (Pennsylvania, Michigan, Arizona, Georgia, Nevada and North Carolina), trailing Biden only in Wisconsin — and a pure head-to-head matchup has the two men tied in Wisconsin. '

    Dems may be able steal elections where Trump isn't leading by at least 4 points. If that's true then WI, MI, PA are still in play, and Trump needs one of those three states (while Bribed Joe needs all 3 of them.)

    https://nypost.com/2024/04/03/opini...-out-of-the-hole-hes-already-dug-for-himself/
     
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    There's exceptions to the rule. Kennedy is making the Biden campaign nervous because he can probably siphon enough votes away from him to make a difference.
     
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    There are a lot of exception to that “rule”.
     
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    Sure, but explain why Kennedy is making the Biden campaign nervous.
     
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    How could I possibly explain what does or doesn’t make makes Biden’s campaign nervous?
     
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    Because you have a better choice ?
     
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    Well, the headline itself give away this this article itself is BS.

    In America you don’t secure election result before the election.

    But I guess MAGA and Trump doesn’t know this simple fact.
     
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    It's been reported. Don't you have an opinion on it?
     
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    This Open border scaremongering is not working in general election. Yes , the “immigration/border policy/ illegal” all these works great among conservative, but it doesn’t work in general election. Trump sent national Guard in 2018 to Southern States because “caravan of migrants” invading America. in 2018 DEMS won 41 seats in the house. Trump used same crazy talk in 2020 and it didn’t work. Trump/ GOP tried that in 2022 and it didn’t work. Majority Americans knows this “open border” is just politics.
     
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    Nope. Don't care if Biden campaign is allegedly worried about RFK Jr
     

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