Trump or Biden?

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Would you vote for Trump or Biden ? (and if possible give a reason)

  1. Trump

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  2. Biden

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  3. Other Candidate

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  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm a bit puzzled because it appears Donald Trump wants to help: the very rich, the less rich, the middle classes, construction workers, factory workers, housewives, and to secure the borders and protect the country and not start any nuclear wars, or any other wars.

    And Biden is the opposite on all of those.

    So I would be particularly interested in hearing an argument, in favor of voting for Biden,

    Although I am concerned about stories of how Trump disrespects women, I think it fades into insignificance compared with how the country is getting over-run with illegal immigrants including rapists and crooks.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Easy choice!
    Pick Trump for President. Don't pick Trump to date your daughter.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Brilliant! Imaginative answers like this are the main reason I post!
     
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    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Great topic brother.
     
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    Esau Well-Known Member

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    Post of the day.
     
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    Yes, you're confused.
    But you support Trump so it is expected.

    Trump wants to do only one thing...SERVE TRUMP

    That you refuse to see it is why you are confused.

    Biden?

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    AND
    given the opportunity to address Trump's biggest "bitch," the border...
    Trump ordered Republicans to kill the effort because "it might help Biden."
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'll take your first point: the inflation reduction act, do you see that mountain from almost the day Biden reached the White House?
    It might be down right now but there are clear indications it is on the way back up again.


    Biden Inflation Rate Mountain.png
     
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    Oldyoungin Well-Known Member

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    Trump and then brace yourself for the violence from leftist after.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    On January 26th 2024 the International Court of Justice stated that it is plausible that Israel
    is committing genocide in the Gaza Strip. Although there is a lot of evidence, the ICJ needs
    proof. Note that the claim that Israel is committing genocide was not rejected and: 'Today the
    court issued what it calls a provisional order. It instructed Israel to take immediate steps to
    protect Palestinian civilians and report back to the court in 30 days.'

    Since that date Biden has sent 100 shipments of weapons to Israel.

    The reputation of the United States is in many eyes now in the toilet.
     
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    Hate both of them tbh though I hate Biden more. If I was living in a place my vote actually mattered I’d vote Trump since Supreme Court Picks/illegal immigration are big topics for me of utmost importance but my vote doesn’t matter so I have the luxury in being able to tell them both to F off
     
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    Easy choice!!
    Pick Biden. Trump is insane.
     
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    According to Democrats, Trump wants to take democracy away, along with Social Security, and he kicks cute little puppy dogs when no one is looking. Oh, and he calls people names. And, he verbally attacks judges, prosecutors, etc., accusing them of witch hunts when they have kangaroo court witch hunts against him.
     
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    You're not puzzled, you're very, very confused if you think for a minute that Trump wants to help anyone. He didn't the first time around so what do you expect to be different?

    That statement shows how deep your confusion is. A statement devoid of facts and logic.

    You're not interested at all on hearing an argument in favor of Biden. Why do I say that? Because your posts on this thread alone are false and blinded by your bias

    Trump has proven that "character" is not something people look for anymore. In fact, I would say you embrace his vile personality.

    So you post a chart showing how inflation has been getting under control and then simply make up reasons why it should be wrong. "clear indications" of which you gave zero proof. Why? Because you have none because there isn't any, just (oddly, wishful thinking on your part).

    As we should.
    Israel, our ally, is in a state of war with Hamas. Hamas wants to wipe Israel off the map. The people in Gaza agree with Hamas. What do you do with people like that?

    Only those that have their eyes closed to reality.
     
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    It looks like a failed impeached bankrupt president handed off inflation to the next presIdent.

    Kind of like Bush 2 did to Obama but with a recession.

    Or are you one of the people that thinks inflation can just magically appear out of no where one day and no prior indicators matter?
     
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    As it stands today I will vote against Brandon.
    Hopefully, we'll get another realistic option before the election.
     
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    I wouldn't and won't vote for either of those dumpster fires.
     
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    Easy. Trump's Supreme Court is poised to destroy the "global warming" con game in June.

    That should automatically qualify him for Mt. Rushmore.

    Everything else about his term was icing on that cake.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ??? You are stating that Donald Trump sabotaged the economy in some way that you can't specify,
    even though he was expecting, as many of us were, that he would be the next President, so
    would sabotage his own presidency.
     
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    I can absolutely specify it

    He negotiated (allegedly threatened OPEC to massively cut production during covid with no agreement to return to normal once demand increased. This caused prices to skyrocket

    He pushed for negative interest rates to prop up his failed GDP growth contributing to some of the housing shortages we are seeing now as people are not selling with those rates.

    He spent 33% of all money spent in the history of this nation with almost no conditions being applied to it which worsened inflation.

    Quantitative easing, which is normally reserved from recessions was implemented PRIOR to covid.

    He enacted trade wars that are still rippling across the economy. Recession indicators were already showing in the manufacturing section pre-COVID

    Not to mention him making deals with terrorist organizations and excluding the nations military from said negotiations.

    What are you even talking about?

    I never said he planned anything — that’s his problem. He doesn’t have a plan. For anything.

    I said he handed off inflation.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm similar, but to me both illegal immigration and starting wars are the
    big no noes. So I confused some small-minded people by opposing
    both G W Bush term one and Biden.

    Both had a weak President and Neocons dominated Administration and
    therefore both were/are keen on starting as many wars as possible.
     
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    Easy choice....neither
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If the Right do it then it's called a 'riot'.
    If the left do it then it's called a 'demonstration'.
     
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    Well if don't like either of them, we have a good 3rd choice:

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    Did Trump Just Secure This State Ahead of the 2024 Election?

    If Trump takes MI, he'll be sworn back in, in January.

    '“The immigration issue hitting home in West Michigan is going to fundamentally change the outlook of the 2024 election,” Yob wrote, adding that the trend will likely impact other states nationwide as well.'

    'Yob cited the recent murder of 25-year-old Ruby Garcia who was shot to death and left on the side of U.S. Highway 131 in Grand Rapids, Michigan by 25-year-old Brandon Ortiz-Vite— an illegal alien from Mexico.'

    “The issue of illegal immigrants murdering people in Grand Rapids is now a national story that will not go away any time soon,” Yob wrote. “Suburban families, even as far north as West Michigan, are now finding out that the open southern border is in their backyard — and they don’t like it. They are about to hear about it over and over again in the media.”

    'Another incident involved 22-year-old Leah Gomez being shot to death in front of her 1-year-old daughter in May 2023 in Grand Rapids by a 27-year-old illegal alien from Mexico.'

    RFK's also very good on the border.
     
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    we reject this propaganda.

    Biden-open borders-hoping the offspring of illegals will be permanent democrat voters
    Biden-wants to ban guns while not prosecuting criminals
    Biden lies that the rich don't pay their "fair share" even though the rich pay almost half the income tax
    Biden-race and gender are more important for judicial picks than competence
    Biden-gas is 3.50 an gallon-it was half as much under Trump
    Biden is a senile pawn
     
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    that's all well and good but not voting is a cop out
    both suck as people though
     

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