Proof that Illegals Are Not Taking Jobs From Americans...

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  1. OldManOnFire

    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    It is 100% true...all the jobs are out there for the taking...spoiled Americans simply need to put down the remotes and get out there and compete for the jobs they claim are gone. If they don't wish to compete, then they should shut up...
     
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    All you talk about here are 'costs'??

    These costs exist no matter if they are legal or illegal so why is this a problem??

    No matter if they are illegal or legal, assuming all of these types of workers don't earn enough to pay income taxes, how can they be a problem?

    Obama will soon allow all illegals to become quasi 'legal' and no matter the politics of this, when this is completed, there won't be a single extra dime of income taxes paid.

    So please explain in YOUR own words how illegals can be a 'cost' problem??
     
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    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    Fact is you simply hate people that don't fit into your nice little world. 5%-10% of Americans are committing illegal acts every single day, and all of these acts cost society...why not deport all of our 'legal' felons??
     
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    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    You continue to ignore the FACT that the government simply mirrors what the people want...this is how they get elected and re-elected. If the people ever make illegal immigration a priority issue, your government will respond. Until then it is low priority and based mostly on xenophobia...
     
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    http://www.sscnet.ucla.edu/issr/csup/uploaded_files/Natl_DayLabor-On_the_Corner1.pdf

    Day labor is a nationwide phenomenon. On any given day, approximately 117,600 workers are either looking for day-labor jobs or working as day laborers. The dimensions of the day-labor market are fluid; on a daily basis new workers enter this market while others leave it. Similarly, hiring sites diminish in size or disappear, while new ones emerge. The national count of the day-labor workforce represents a snapshot of this workforce in the United States. The largest concentration of day laborers is in the West (42 percent), followed by the East (23 percent), Southwest (18 percent), South (12 percent) and Midwest (4 percent).

    Day laborers search for work in different types of hiring sites. The vast majority (79 percent) of hiring sites are informal and include workers standing in front of businesses (24 percent), home improvement stores (22 percent), gas stations (10 percent) and on busy streets (8 percent). Most of these sites are near residential neighborhoods. One in five (21 percent) day laborers search for work at day-labor worker centers.

    Day laborers are primarily employed by homeowners/renters (49 percent) and
    construction contractors (43 percent). Their top five occupations include construction laborer, gardener and landscaper, painter, roofer, and drywall installer.

    The day-labor workforce in the United States is predominantly immigrant and Latino. Most day laborers were born in Mexico (59 percent) and Central America (28 percent), but the third-largest group (7 percent) was born in the United States. Two-fifths (40 percent) of day laborers have lived in the United States for more than 6 years. Three-quarters (75 percent) of the day-labor workforce are undocumented migrants. About 11 percent of the undocumented day-labor workforce has a pending application for an adjustment of their immigration status.


    I'm curious if you can explain why Americans don't want these same jobs?

    Why do Americans refuse to compete for these jobs?
     
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    Welfare, hospital emergency room visits, crime, and other entitlements.

    You say that not a single job was lost due to illegal aliens, and that they do not cost us a single dime?

    You are delusional.

    You must be illegal yourself, or related to them.
     
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    I wish felons could be deported.

    I just want to see folks follow our laws.

    What is so wrong with that?
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Get off the xenophobia excuse.

    People want to see our laws followed.

    Now, you will probably respond by saying that following the law is low priority.
     
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    Get rid of the illegals, and the jobs will have to accommodate Americans.

    When welfare is more attractive than working, it creates a lazy, entitlement society.
     
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    Illegals are taking jobs and other resources from us. Its plain folks. You can put spin on it if you would like to but most of us can see through it.

    How about this, the Left wants us to use less energy here in the States, kick the MILLIONS of illegals out and we will suddenly be using a lot less energy, welfare can go to who it is supposed to (any guesses on that?), construction hands can go back to work.
     
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    So if you wave your xenophobic wand and instantly change all illegals into LEGALS (as Obama will soon try to do), nothing you complain about will change or go away! There will be the same welfare, the same emergency room visits, the same crime, and whatever other entitlements or issues you have.

    If everything remains the same, no matter legal or illegal, then logic says that 'costs' cannot be a problem only related to illegals.

    Again, I ask you what is the PROBLEM with illegals?
     
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    You continue to prove your xenophobia!

    Speaking Spanish is not against the law??

    It is reckless for you to believe 'they' are too lazy to learn English since 'they' know the more English they speak and understand the higher the wages they can achieve.

    Immigration rallies are fully supported with our civil rights...which BTW apply to anyone on American soil...not just citizens. I suspect YOU would have equal problems if 'they' waved the US flag...
     
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    It's not a practical expectation! People violate laws no matter who they are; male, female, young, old, all ethnicities, everyone has the potential to violate laws.

    How can you expect 'them' to follow the precise rule of law when Americans can't do this?
     
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    No...I will follow by saying the only excuse is xenophobia...and if this is true, it's not an excuse...it's pathetic...
     
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    Please explain 'ACCOMODATE AMERICANS'??
     
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    OldManOnFire Well-Known Member

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    Where do you suppose all of these jobs you talk about were 'taken'??

    All of those jobs exist today in the same places they were yesterday and 10-40 years ago...all YOU need to do is get out there and compete for those jobs!
     
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    Yes, there is an underlying entitlement issue that is out of control.

    They are law-breakers, and are a slap in the face of all immigrants that choose the legal path.
     
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    It shows the unwillingness to assimilate into America, and in some respect shows a lack of respect.

    The problem with immigration rallies, is that illegals are demanding something that they can legally pursue. They just want a handout of American citizenship. They want their so-called civil rights as illegals, yet disregard our laws.
     
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    What a cop out. You sound pathetic!

    If you wish to come to America, live the American dream, and ultimately become a citizen, then the first thing NOT to do, is break our laws.

    Comprende?
     
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    Definition of XENOPHOBIA: Fear and hatred of strangers or foreigners or of anything that is strange or foreign.

    The reason why this does not apply to me, is that I have no problem with strangers or foreigners coming to the United States the tried and true legal way. In fact, this is exactly what my Mom did many years ago.

    Try again.
     
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    If there are available needed jobs, and there are no illegals to fill them, employers will still need workers. Perhaps advertise more, pay more, etc.
     
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    I dont suppose they were taken anywhere. I do suppose they were taken from those folks in the unemployment lines though.
     
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