‘Go Back to Univision!': Donald Trump Kicks Jorge Ramos Out of Iowa Press Conference

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  1. fizbo

    fizbo Well-Known Member

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    What's cool about this thread is that it really shouldn't be political. It's about a candidate throwing out a participant for bad and obnoxious behavior. The candidate could have been Democrat or Republican. The participant could have been a legitimate Journalist, or in this case, an Activist pretending to be a Journalist. It was a real opportunity to discuss how far those intent on chaotic disruption should be allowed to go.

    Yet you somehow find a way to dump all your pent up accusations of racism and attacks against the masses in a place where they have no place. Trying to get you back on track has been like trying to pick up Jello with tweezers. Somehow I don't think things are going to change.
     
  2. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong!

    The Mexican government invited the Americans to Texas and the Americans were given land that was unclaimed (unowned). When Mexico went from a democracy to a dictatorship, Texans wanted no part of it. So Texans fought for independence in 1836.

    The U.S. was not involved in any of that.

    Thank you for trying.
     
  3. Coolia

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    Jorge Ramos should go back to the Mexico.

    He's a hypocrite who's scared Trump is going to send all those non-white illegals back to Mexico. If he really gave a crap about illegals, he'd be after the Mexican government to take care of its own poor and make their lives better in their own country.
     
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    What specifically do you object to? Your allegations are vague.
     
  5. TomFitz

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    Nobody said they were. But some people claim Fox is.

    Trying to pretend that this man's campaign has substance by claiming that people don't listen to his speeches is dishonest.

    There isn't anything to Trump's speeches. He has no platform, no idea, and no positions. His website is devoid of anything remotely resembling a campaign platform other than a long rant about building a wall and deporting people (accompanies by links to various unreliable right wing blogs).
     
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    Trump provides something much more important. A 100% commitment that there won't be another worthless occupant in the White House.

    All the Democrats have to offer is a third term of Obama. Most of the Republican candidates (with the exception of Cruz and Fiorina) offer little more than Democrat light. Most conservatives and independents recognize this country is in trouble if we continue down that path. They want to hear a candidate unafraid to tackle issues that most others run away from. Right now Trump is filling the void. I don't agree with much of what Trump says, but his no BS speeches are refreshing.

    Look, I don't need specifics from Hillary touting how she'll provide free college to all by confiscating money from some. A web site giving specifies of bad policy is not the measure of legitimacy.
     
  7. Dale Cooper

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    Apparently, you didn't get the memo that the racist meme is dead in the water.

    Trump is far from racist. If he fired all the Mexicans working for him...you know, drawing paychecks and feeding their families...you might have a point. 'Til then, you don't.

    People are laughing at the racist charge. It's gotten beyond the point of silliness.
     
  8. TomFitz

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    I don't think Trump is racist. But he knows how to blow the dog whistle, and he does it often. His crowd is the Sarah Palin crowd, and once the novelty of his "tough talk" wears off, that's who he'll be left with.

    I started to watch the Trump/Palin show. He ranted about our crumbling infrastructure.

    But he offered no plan for fixing it.

    This is standard Trump. "Look at me pointing to this" and nothing more.
     
  9. TomFitz

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    Donald Trump will have to rely on his own money (which he is not inclined to spend) and donations from the sort of people who wrote checks to Sarah Palin, Glen Beck and the tea party.

    Wall Street and Koch won't support him.

    They know who he is, and they know better than to trust him.

    Trump is a quick buck artist. He goes in with a load of hype, gets the investors signed up (and their money) and walk away with his cut, never looking back to see how his deal turned out.

    Joe Kennedy was just like Trump, only without the Archie Bunker act.
     
  10. Dale Cooper

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    He has told all of us over and over and over and over and over what he'll do to Make America Great Again. Another missed memo.

    Hint: He will hire/appoint experts and let them do their jobs.

    Sorry you expect a president to be a be-all, fix-all. You see where that notion got us! lol
     
  11. Bluesguy

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    The fact that he is standing there saying he has a right to ask a question should be reason to revoke his citizenship. He obviously cheated on his naturalization exam.
     
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    Texicans fought to get out from under the repressive oppressive rule of Mexican "emperors". They were not Americans. Texas became a separate country. It was not between Mexico and Americans.
     
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    They were invited there by Spain and were LEGAL Immigrants who became citizens of Texas. Even after Mexico revolted against Spain legal immigration was encouraged by the Mexican government.

    So what do you propose we do with the Mexican squatters in our country now since you seem to have a problem with squatters?
     
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    Goes back before that Spain wanted settlers so set up a LEGAL IMMIGRATION program.
     
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    As I noted, he presented no plan, and no plan exists in any of his nearly non existant campaign literature.

    Claiming that he is going to hire experts and "let them do their job" is just about as silly as saying he's going to wave his magic wand.
     
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    Why do so many people eagerly assume the white people abused the brown people? It must be somehow related to the "noble savage" concept, which has been thoroughly discredited.

    In Texas, the Americans (Texans) didn't want to live under a dictatorship. They had the moral high ground.
     
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    It is actually about a political candidate pretending to be a politician throwing out a journalist because he can't answer the question if that candidate can do that imagine what he is capable once become the president of the USA.
    Trump has accused an entire race the Hispanics for being illegals, criminals, rapist, drug dealers etc.
    Things will not change as long as Trump continue with his racial, gender rhetoric he is one that does not shy away from political correction and I guess of the political correctness that he should be called upon is that his policies are a reminiscence of Nazi Germany!

    - - - Updated - - -

    Trump refused to investigate or fire any illegal workers working for him.
    People are concern with Trump's Nazi policies :(
     
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    The reason why the US government did not intervene was because they recognize Mexico's sovereignty over Texas.
    The thousand of illegals in the USA the solution is to punish not the hard working illegals but corporate America for hiring them this include Trump's businesses need to be investigated for hiring illegals.
     
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    Actually he's a businessman who's business model for requires large numbers of people in the US who's first language is Spanish.
     
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    He's not advocating for anyone except illegal aliens. He doesn't want them deported. Trump asked him about the violent gangs here who are illegal, and he had *crickets* to say about them. He supports Mexico sending their criminals to the US.
     
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    No politician wants to answer questions outside of their pre asked and expected questions. Politicians want to repeat, not think.

    It was fun to watch Trump the "Tough Guy" ban questions they weren't comfortable with.
     
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    Do you live on a different planet?? Trump has a problem with Illegal Aliens. The only problem he has with Hispanics are the ones who are Illegal Aliens.

    The Illegal Aliens he has the most problem with are the ones who commit crimes, avoid deportation, and proceed to murder Americans. How does this happen?? It's because of the sick progressive left policies that infect this country. You might want to refresh your memory with two recent murders committed by Illegal Aliens that could have been prevented if said Illegal Aliens had been permanently deported after initially committing crimes:

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/09/us/undocumented-immigrant-charged-with-killing-air-force-vet/

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/03/us/san-francisco-killing-suspect-immigrant-deported/

    Please, get your facts straight instead of just repeating left-wing talking points that you clearly don't understand.
     
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    I think the desperate Democrats have accused him of doing so. So you fell for it or something?
     
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    -Yep, and I am a Bernie supporter. He is nothing more than a FDR Progressive, you know, what made us great until the neoliberals of Reagan-Thatcher dismantled our Progressive economy.
     
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    More like dishonest democrats. I listened to that speech, and although I am an FDR progressive, I KNEW he was talking about only some of the illegals. He said some were good people. But still lawbreakers.

    Some of us are celebrating law breaking. And then are arrogant about it. I do not get this attitude, unless its incoherence caused by some silly ideological belief.
     

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