“Trump …. attacking Democrats as communists”

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  1. The Ant

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    People like you have been calling anyone to the left of Genghis Khan a ‘Commie’ since the end of WWII. You wouldn’t have a clue…and the rest of the world treats you like a laughing stock…
     
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    An AM radio talk show host, Mr. Jesse Kelly [self-identified as Dr. Kelly,], has been revisiting the ground pioneered by the late Senator Joseph McCarthy. The 'communist' soil was well-plowed back in the mid-1950's [I was able to hear much of the hearings,] but failed to produce a single viable plant.

    Regards, stay safe 'n well.
     
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    So your saying that those business owners didnt take the same responsibility ?

    FTR, College is a joke, and its nothing more than a business now. It stopped being about education decades ago. Im not defending college loans, I’m debating the effect that those loans have on the economy, the same as PPP had on the economy. Saving money on those loans that can be put back into the economy, has the same effect on the economy as the jobs PPP saved
     
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    When has Biden demonized a group? Isn’t that what you claimed? Which group?
     
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    Helping an industry or industries get through a national crisis that is not of their doing in any way (COVID) is very different that giving a free ride to irresponsible losers that can't pay their bills because they voluntarily took on a loan they couldn't afford.
     
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    So the individual who got a college loan is an “irresponsible looser”, but the business owner “is a victim of the economy” ?

    Holy crapballs batgirl…..
     
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    The business owner experienced a totally unexpected labor crisis due to COVID. It was not part of any business loan he took. It was more like a hurricane, flood or other natural disaster. It was an UNEXPECTED EMERGENCY.

    This is TOTALLY DIFFERENT than an individual that irresponsibly took out a college loan he could not afford to pay back. He was irresponsible for assuming a loan he could not afford. It wasn't because of a hurricane, flood, COVID or other natural disaster. It was because of his own poor planning and irresponsibilty. This isn't very hard to understand.

    Get it?
     
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    Really? "Democrats" by definition are ... Democrats. There are about 110 million democrats, but only about 5 thousand communists. Even if all the communists were secretly Democrats ... that's not much of a boogie man. From past experience it's obvious that how tRaitor tRump labels anyone is meaningless and only used to fire up his paltry base ... base.
     
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    Conservative always attack opponent or the things they don’t like as communist, socialist, Marxist. Regardless of political ideology, in American society these words are associate with “ Bad or bad government , oppression, enemy” etc.

    Conservative attacked MLK and called him Communist and Marxist. Conservative attacked NAACP as “ communist organization’. Conservative attacked women's suffrage movement as communist and Marxist and anti-American. Conservative attacked anti-war movement in 60s as communist and on and on all the way to today BLM movement. Anything conservative don’t like is communist or waxiest.

    The way conservative use these words should be meaningless to American people, unfortunately these words are so negative in Americans mind that every time Americans hear these words, they associate with “ bad thing”. And conservative take advantage of American attitude toward these words.
     
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    I am so glad that Joe Biden don’t try to please the conservative but stick it to them.
     
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    Do you know MLK was communist, John Lewie was communist, Bill Clinton was communist, Obama was communist. Hack Mitt Romney is communist.

    Anyone/anything conservative don’t like = Communist.
     
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    Conservatives attack communists as communists, socialists as socialists and Marxists as Marxists. And yes, those words connote very bad things... like tyranny.

    I never heard anyone call MLK a communist, except J. Egar Hoover. And as we have come to find out in recent years, heads of the FBI can be corrupt and politically bought. Maybe J. Edgar called the NAACP that too... he was the product of an era that had McCarthyism. But it wasn't a common label. I'm not sure that anyone ever called the women's suffrage movement communist. I'm not sure the term was in common usage in the early 1900's. It took the post WWII Cold War to make it popular. The anti-war movement of the 1960's was, by definition, pro-communist. It was conducting a war against them that so opposed. I never heard anyone call BLM communist. Racist? Of course. But communist? I don't see the connection.

    Conservatives don't like lots of things associated with the Democratic party. Thee include high gas price, high inflation, spending billions to protect Ukraine's borders while leaving our own wide open, the cowardly skidaddle from Afghanistan, arming the Taliban, letting our enemies freely violate our air space, skyrocketing fentanyl deaths, and lots more. But no one is calling any of this "communist".

    I would suggest that it is democrats that label everything they oppose in the same way. Heck, if they stop liking tomato soup, they'll label it "racist".
     
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    So much for the "great uniter"... LOL.. Does it bother you that Hillary couldn't get elected, and had to use Joe to do the dirty work for her?
     
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    I never heard anyone call any of those people communists. John Lewie? The gardener?
     
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    I can go and find all the news paper clip about MLK associate with communism ( apart from FBI) , but I will not waste my time on that just because you never heard about it, there are enough information out there if you really want to find out. But I hardly doubt you will because it will contradict your narrative.

    I can go on and bring up news clip where legislator in FL, TX, GA attacking NAACP as communist organization, but I will not waste my time on that just because you never heard, there are enough information out there if you really want to find out. But I hardly doubt you will because it will contradict your narrative.

    Regarding Woman suffrage movement – you are right, and I am wrong. Wilson attacked them as Anti-American because he wanted to focus on WW1 and not internal debate. He thought “Woman suffrage movement” was a distraction. Media and others who disagreed with Suffrage movement they just called associated the movement with rabble, promiscuous etc.

    60s anti war movement was not a pro-communist, many American didn’t want to be involve in a war other side of the world. I disagree with them but they were not rooting for communism.

    As I said anything conservative don’t like = communism.
     
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    Well said. And there is a history on the social right doing this stretching back to a certain fascist European country in the 30s. They just called it Cultural Bolshevism instead of Cultural Marxism.
     
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    I've DEFINITELY heard people call MLK communist . . . that was extremely common while he was alive. The same goes for Obama. You seriously want to sit here and claim you've never heard anyone call Obama a communist?
     
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    I didn’t vote for “ great uniter” , I voted to defeat Republican and implement Democrat’s agenda. Joe Biden done both and I am very happy. It’s icing on the cake that Biden stick it to conservative.
     
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    I thought you were referring to Trump. My mistake.
    Biden very occasionally has done it, white nationalists for example, but he seems to be responding from anger and doesn't repeat it over and over.
    I'm not trying to say Trump and Biden are equals in this aspect, but one method of having a discussion is to find a common ground to agree with at least a little, so as to not put the other person on the defensive immediately. Maybe you've noticed, but there are some defensive personas around here.
    Sorry for the confusion.
    Lol! I remember when I read your post I thought it odd given your normal opinions and statements. Should have been a signal to me that I wasn't reading it right!
     
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    Yup, and there's a small part of the population that wants to cut off children's genitalia... but I wouldn't characterize ALL Democrats as wanting that... like you say ALL conservatives label opponents "communist". You and I can both produce newsclips to prove almost anything... but they hardly apply to ALL liberals... or ALL conservatives.
    The anti-war movement of the 1960's wanted to stop a WAR AGAINST COMMUNISM. That sounds like supporting communism... Today there are folks protesting the Russian invasion of the Ukraine... no matter how you slice it, that's pro-Ukraine... in just the same way.
    I don't like current Biden gas prices, but I hardly say its communist. I don't like Biden inflation rates, but they aren't communist. I don't like liberal opposition to the 2d Amendment, but i don't call it communist. I oppose liberal DA's letting violent criminals go free, but I don't say that's communist. I don't like Biden's open border... but I'd never say its communist. I don't like the fact that Biden ran from Afghanistan leaving US citizens and allies behind... but I don't call him a communist for that. I don't like that Biden armed the Taliban, but I wouldn't call him a communist for doing so.

    So your claim that "anything conservative don’t like = communism" simply isn't true.
     
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    Ok , I will change my characterization, majority conservative call what they don’t like “communism”.
     
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    You did? I don't recall that person being on the Ballot. So you did note for Biden. Who cares what your ideological reasoning was, you still voted for the guy who has most assuredly not been the "great uniter". That you cannot bring yourself to admit that publicly, well, that's truly more an indictment of Biden than most would offer, even if you didn't think you just did that... But sure. The jack booted thugs should be thanks to you then, right?
     
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    I have no idea what you are saying.,

    But one thing I am clear – My Guy is in WH and your guy is not. and that is what upsetting you. Oh I must add you will be upset for very , very long time. Get used to it.
     

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