“Trump immunity fight turns Supreme Court textualists topsy-turvy”

Well Tony did kill some people….but the point is the same.

 

You’re welcome. You do have a point……on you’re head.

 

In your opinion. It's distasteful, and seems to clearly go against the Constitution, but I don't think it's so absolutely clear that it should constitute a crime. Especially when the likely motivation was to delay--for the paradoxical purpose of making sure there was no fraud--rather than to secure a reelection through fraud.

It's not so clear that the Vice President even has the Constitutional power to truly certify a Presidential election, and I would argue he doesn't have that power. Especially not when it's obvious who the real electors are and it wasn't the real electors who were cancelled.

If I had been Trump, another legal strategy that I think could have been used is to just ask the Vice President to refuse to recognize electors unless the state governments passed a specific resolution (with the same votes necessary to pass a state law) about who the electors were. That certainly could have bought some time, and forced state legislatures to consider things.

This would have (unfairly, but arguably not illegally) given Trump a win if the Democrats pressed the Vice President to certify the results, and so the Vice President would not have been under any pressure or time constraints to do so.

 

(and likewise Republicans wouldn't have pressured the Vice President either, because that could risk pushing him into a direction that would not be beneficial to them)

 

just WOW….Now you “dont know if the VP really has the constitutional power to certify the election” ?

My god, you righties are just making it up as you go along.

We have used the same process for 250+ years, and now your claiming the process is probably wrong because the insurrection party tried to overthrow a free and fair election…..OK….got it now.

So “you” would have pressed them not to certify the electors because….well, because your guy lost, therefore their is no real “constitutional authority” and now the process requires a :state resolution as to who the electors really are” ? JFC they already DO THAT !!!!!

C’mon kat, this is beyond ridiculous becuase your guy lost, now you righties have all become constitutional law experts and are now claiming a state resolution is required to certify electors… (Hint: States already do that…..ssshhh, dont tell anyone on your side because it will destroy their egos’)

Holy nutbaggery batman !!!!!

 

As stated, three times now, there was no meaningful fraud, in fact, just the opposite was proven, Trump surrogates screaming fraud with no proof isn’t a legitimate reason to postpone the scheduled Constitutional transfer of power

And the VP accepts and counts the electoral vote from each State, the electoral vote certified, in swing States in 2020, that was counted, recounted, audited, and often recounted again, at the State level, Trump’s design was to present Pence with dual electors from select States so that Pence could not proceed with the counting and would have to hand the election over to the House.

In other words, Trump work with an organized and specially designed effort to fraudulently invalidate the election and retain power