1/2 of the Navy's aircraft carriers aren't available

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  1. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When you don't see any misogyny or homophobia what do you call the duck then ?
     
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    Lol yes I saw you complaining about buggery earlier. Lots of things offend you, we get it. I'll be more PC for you to keep you happy :)

    I'll take your side on this one though. Women can absolutely perform jobs on ships. My cousin is currently not deployed, but when she does, she's the comm specialist between Air tower and ships
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's right, there were no sailors aboard the ship to carry out damage control procedures. As Obama would say, "ships that go under water." :roflol: Yep, Obama said it.

    On July 29th, 1967 from that day on, every American sailor would be a fireman first.

    [video]https://youtu.be/chuiyXQKw3I[/video]
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    For anyone who's interested of the sinking of the DD 985 USS Cushing, here's the video. It took more than a torpedo to sink that destroyer.

    [video]https://youtu.be/EunDiDKOLk8[/video]
     
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    We aren't at war, when down carrier officers and crewman (and crewwomen) are on leave to rest and going into training to improve their skills and ship systems updated and such so these down times are important. IF we enter a formal full war mobilization I'm sure all the ships could be out and fighting within months. After Pearl Harbor the dock workers and ship repair people got many ships out and fighting before the Battle of Midway in months after a devastating sneak attack.

    Perhaps the real issue is we are all over sticking our noses where its not needed, we have a fine peacetime navy and they can do limited combat actions one might need if they don't overextend themselves.

    I trust all our armed forces to be ready and able to defense this nation with courage, honor and skill when called upon and their command to keep them up at reasonable strength.
     
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    Yeah, your comments about "buggery" and about women in the military are clearly not at all homophobic or misogynist.
     
  7. APACHERAT

    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just some short excerpts.


    Overall U.S. Military Capability



    Army as “Marginal.”
    The Army was at the low end of the middle grade (marginal) in capacity and capability and scored quite low in readiness (as reported by the Army), with the three scores combining to place it in the low end of the middle category.

    Navy as “Marginal.”
    The Navy scored quite strong in readiness but at a cost to future capability. Deferred maintenance has kept ships at sea, but at some point in the near future, this will affect the ability of the Navy to deploy. Combined with a weak score in capability (due largely to old platforms and troubled modernization programs) and a marginal score in capacity, the Navy is currently just able to meet requirements.

    Air Force as “Strong.”
    The Air Force flies a lot and has significantly more aircraft than required for a two-MRC force, but it is an Air Force of aging aircraft, and its modernization programs are problematic. Still, its high scores in capacity and readiness placed it in the best position of all of the services.

    Marine Corps as “Marginal.”
    The Corps’ strongest suit was in readiness, but even here there are problems as stated by the Corps itself. While the fighting competency of the service is superb, it is hampered by old equipment, troubled replacement programs for its key ground vehicles, and a shrinking force. The progress it has made in replacing its rotary-wing aircraft is a notable bright spot in its modernization portfolio.

    Nuclear Capabilities as “Marginal.”
    Modernization, testing, and investment in the intellectual/talent underpinnings of this sector are the chief elements plaguing the U.S. nuclear enterprise. Delivery platforms are good, but the force depends on a very limited set of weapons (in number of designs) and models that are quite old in stark contrast to the aggressive programs of competitor states.

    http://index.heritage.org/military/2015/chapter/us-power/overall/



    U.S. Navy
    Readiness


    Although the Navy can still deploy forces to meet the GFMAP requirements, other factors indicate a decline in readiness. Due to cuts brought on by the sequester in FY 2013, the Navy experienced shortfalls in “facilities maintenance, fleets spares, aviation depots, and weapons maintenance.”29 Despite partial alleviation of the shortfall as a result of FY 2014 funding under the Bipartisan Budget Act, that shortfall still exists and will proceed into future years. Shortfalls in FY 2013 include meeting only 57 percent of facilities sustainment requirements (a reduction of 30 percent); operating at 90 percent of base operations requirement; and cancellation of five carrier strike group deployments.30 This Index assumes that the FY 2014 readiness levels are higher than those of previous years, though still not at 100 percent.

    In May 2013, only a third of the Navy was fully mission-capable. Historically, 50 percent of the fleet has been certified for major combat operations due to maintenance requirements.

    http://index.heritage.org/military/2015/chapter/us-power/us-navy/


    U.S Army
    Readiness


    Due to sequestration in FY 2013, the Army experienced a shortage in readiness funding that resulted in “significantly and rapidly degraded Army readiness, which [has] translated directly into FY 2014.”13 Recognizing the risk that this introduces into its ability to respond to an emergent threat, the Army chose to prioritize readiness over other expenditures for FY 2014. However, the ongoing need to prioritize readiness for soldiers meeting operational requirements, such as those deployed to Afghanistan, left the rest of the Army with training and sustainment shortfalls.14

    This tiered readiness strategy means that only a limited number of BCTs are available and ready for decisive action. According to the Vice Chief of Staff of the Army, General Daniel B. Allyn, the Army had “12 brigades that [were] postured and ready to deploy” by the end of FY 2014.15 The 12 ready BCTs account for 32 percent of the 38 BCTs in the Active Army. This is an improvement from earlier in the year when 80 percent of the Army was considered to be “at a lower readiness level.”16 As stated, the Army had prioritized funding in readiness over capacity and modernization, allowing them to regain some of the lost readiness as a result of sequestration the prior year.

    http://index.heritage.org/military/2015/chapter/us-power/us-army/


    U.S. Marine Corps
    Readiness


    The Marine Corps’ first priority is to be the crisis response force for the military, which is why investment in readiness has been prioritized over capacity and capability. However, in order to invest in readiness in a time of downward fiscal pressure, the Corps has been forced to reduce end strength and delay investment in modernization.13

    Despite the emphasis on readiness, in FY 2014, “60 percent of [the Corps’] non-deployed units [were] experiencing degraded readiness in their ability to execute core missions.”14 This constitutes about 48 percent of the total USMC force.15 Because the Marine Corps expects to be the first to respond to a situation or crisis, this dictates that all units, even non-deployed units, should be “ready.”16 The Corps has stated that “over the long-term, resourcing short-term readiness by borrowing-forward from long-term investment resources is unsustainable, and will eventually degrade unit readiness to an unacceptable level.”

    http://index.heritage.org/military/2015/chapter/us-power/us-marine-corps/


    U.S. Air Force
    Readiness


    The Air Force’s readiness is affected by several inputs: training (for example, flying hours); weapon system sustainment; facilities; and installations.15 The decision to reduce the size of the Air Force to COCOM requirements now requires that the entire force must be ready at all times, which means no strategic reserve capacity for the service to respond to unanticipated requirements.16 Maintaining this very high state of readiness is necessary if the Air Force is going to continue to be the world’s dominant air superiority force.

    According to the Air Force, however, readiness has been declining since 2003.17 This trend was further aggravated in FY 2013 by the implementation of sequester, which cut spending on readiness. In FY 2013, flying hours were reduced by 18 percent, and 17 combat-coded squadrons of 40 (43 percent) were temporarily stood down.18 In FY 2014, the Air Force prioritized its funding on readiness to make up those shortfalls, but the investment was not sufficient to make up the loss, and the shortfall in readiness still exists in FY 2014 and will persist into FY 2015.

    In addition to insufficient funding, making up readiness losses takes significant time. For example, standing down a unit for 60 days results in a degraded (unfit for combat) unit. To return the unit to desired levels of proficiency will take six months to a year.19 Similarly, because of depot delays, “t can take two-to-three years to recover full restoration of depot workforce productivity and proficiency.”...

    http://index.heritage.org/military/2015/chapter/us-power/us-air-force/
     
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    So you have to back 50 years to find the last time a US ship was torpedoed. So it's not really a critical concern in modern naval operations.

    There were female sailors on board the Cole. Do you have any evidence that heir presence hampered damage control operations?
     
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    How are they defining readiness?

    My unit was considered undeployable if it didn't have X number of people with up to date certificates for various pieces of training. Does that mean we were incapable of fighting and deploying? No, it only meant that bureaucratic bull(*)(*)(*)(*) hadn't been completed on time.
     
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    Honestly ... about 1/3 of carriers sre always in refitting and maintenance. Sure there are only the carriets of Nimitz class left now bit who has such a fat minus in income has for sure other problems as to cruise with 10 carriers around the world ... aside fact that no one else has more 2 carriers and that USN has a strong ARG capacity with Wasp class too.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Buggery" is a legal term just like "illegal alien."

    Senate Approves Bill that Legalizes Sodomy and Bestiality in U.S. Military

    BEASTIALITY !!! :eyepopping:

     
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    Blame the Conservatives who created that law for not being able to tell the difference between someone raping an animal and someone having consensual sex with another adult. I hope none of those people who drafted that law had pets.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, I read an interview of the USS Cole's skipper. When Cmdr. Kirk Lippold was being questioned by Congress he said the first thing he was asked about was not about the Al Qaeda attack on the Cole but the liberals wanted to know how the women performed. Cmdr. Lippold told the liberals exactly what they wanted to hear so he wouldn't walk the plank.

    BTW: Cmdr Lippold did end up walking the plank.

    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CHRG-107shrg81231/html/CHRG-107shrg81231.htm
     
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    So you are claiming the Commander lied?
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well the Navy keeps it's goat locked up in the goat locker.

    The Army's mule isn't so lucky.
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Kinda looks that way.

    If Obama were have been the CnC back in 2000, it would have been Admiral Lippold. Obama likes yes men. If you aren't a yes man Valerie Jarrett will see that you are purged from the military.
     
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    Where is your proof that he lied? Can you quote the relevant portion of the paper you linked to that backs you up?
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When I was on active duty every month from company size on up were evaluated and were given a combat readiness score, C-1 being combat ready and C-4 someones career has ended. The combat readiness of each unit was usually classified for two years. Back in the day a C-2 rating in my unit was unacceptable.




     
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    is he the top leader of US armed military?
     
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    If a Private misses a shot at the range at Basic, did the President actually miss that shot?
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are you referring to maggie's drawers ?

    300 meter line or the 500 meter line ?
     
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    I don't think so, the word is Valerie Jarrett holds that position.
     

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