14 cops take down one-legged homeless black man armed with crutches

How do you know he was poor ?

I think it is YOU that is filling in blanks with your own bias.

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In everyone of these police-on-black 'brutality' cases, the 'victim' is resisting arrest. Why don't blacks just do what they are told under these circumstances. Stop resisting arrest.

 

I know right? Why would you assume that a homeless man is poor? Most homeless people have plenty of money to buy homes, they just like living on the street amirite?

 

Wow, Id get rid of the illegals we are paying for so we can use that money on starving Americans. Agree?

 

"You're literally on his prosthetic leg"... wtf? like he should be treated differently? If he doesn't struggle, he wont be held down. What has a fake leg got to do with it?
"That's how you guys handle handicapped people?" WTF? Yeah, handicapped can't commit crimes. They can't hold guns or kill people. They should tottally be treated differently when a crime's been reported.
"I'm a member of this community and I don't feel safe", says the woman casually filming. She didn't seem to be concerned about being "unsafe".

Some of the people talking (*)(*)(*)(*) to the cops should have been arrested, IMO. It's not up to them to smack talk police doing their job. If they have a complaint to make, with film evidence, present that in the appropriate manner.


"I'm a journalist" .... "with elle magazine".
lol. Keep on reporting. I'm sure the homeless guys fashion sense will be hitting next month's front cover.

 

Some people here keep missing the point. The problem was not really the police in this case. It was the person who called them in the first place. You never have to say "that rich guy shouldn't have resisted arrest" because these things don't happen to them. You might as well just tell the next poor person in this situation that "they should've just let them stick it in real good."

 

A call needs to be taken seriously, of course. And if someone reported a rich guy, he might well resist arrest too. There are a few videos around of famous (white) people being arrested and kicking up a fuss.

 

With due respect you are without any proof assuming because a by-stander had a camera the police behaved which is a back track from your original allegations where you claimed 14 police officers subdued this man which is a falsehood.

As for your contention a police officer stomped on his leg I watched it and did not see the "stomp"/

What I saw was a by the book police maneuver to stop him from kicking out and hurting himself or others.

Do you have any training in subduing people who kick out? Would you know such a technique if you saw one?

Your version of what happened is not the only version. If you are that close minded you just want to write off what I say, be my guest.

All I am saying is your version of what you think you saw is not necessarily what happened and I believe you have a preconceived bias that predisposes you to projecting and assuming certain things that may not have happened.

 

Don't you think before you were so quick to show this tape you should have found that out?

The fact is, you haven't a clue what this one legged man was doing that caused the police to intervene.

As I stated, he probably was suffering from a psychotic episode of some sort which is why the medics were called.

Did it dawn on you this man you exploit for your Marxist cause may simply be a mentally ill person who had to be subdued and taken to hospital for his own good?

Hey now I guess that wouldn't lend itself to your anti American agenda now would it. He couldn't possibly being helped by the police, he was a downtrodden victim of capitalist tyranny.

 

Did you read the article? And I repeat myself:

 

I don't see where race plays into this, there were white cops, black cops, oriental cops.

 

Look at the post directly above you.

 

I had only two concerns as I watched and those were the homeless factor and whether they were going to slip and accidentally kill the man. Police handle guys like that all the time, but every once in a while, they apply too much pressure and someone ends up dead.

I saw nothing wrong with the woman being the homeless man's advocate at that time. She didn't physically get in the officer's way of doing their job, but she made sure her presence was felt enough that they had to realize they were being watched. I stand by my observations, but will say you have a point on how the police is trained to handle the situation. Nonetheless, it is good that cops get a reminder that they are being watched.

 

I commend your civility in response to me. Thank you. I am very appreciative you don't take what I say the wrong way and know I am only debating you with respect. The tone of genuine politeness in your responses to me is appreciated.

With due respect again I did not see any brutality. This guy probably was having a lash out episode-where they scream and blurt out unintelligible words that frighten people walking by. He's probably like I said suffering from a mental illness or combination of that and physical illness brought about by poor diet that can cause violent outbursts. Most times they remain just a man yelling out. People don't know that though and get frightened for themselves and him.

With due respect I saw no brutality. The police officer at one point was very careful to prevent his head from being injured or twisting his neck

That manouver to lock the leg places pressure on the muscle to cramp it so it can't move. With a prosthetic, the slashing movement of it can be dangerous and depending on where his stump is it can rip at the stump. There is so much involved in taking down a guy like this most of us do not understand and the tendency is to jump to the assumption because he is black and looks homeless, the police are picking on him.

I have a bias of course. My bias is that I think from having worked in the court system that we (in Canada too where I am from) let people out who can not properly fend for themselves. Our constitutions do not allow us to impose treatment or incarceration of the mentally ill without their consent unless they are an immediate danger to themselves or others. I get that. We don't want to arrest people using mental illness as a phony excuse.

On the other hand, it does leave people on the streets, sick, lonely and unable to properly help themselves and police are the last resort we call and they don't arrest these people to hurt them or because they are black or poor in such cases, they detain them until they go to hospital.

What you saw may look like evil police picking on a poor man, but for all you know it got this man a meal and at least some water.

That man will be back on the street. With any luck they gave him a fumigation procedure to kill his lice and clean any open sores. None of us know.

The police were mostly surrounding the scene to make sure no one came to close. Why? Because and most do not consider this, the man may have a contagious disease, aids, tuberculosis, and if you get too close you may get it. As well people like this bite, spit, wet their pants, defecate their pants and its not a thing police want people close to. Police are used to it, the average person is not

This was actually a text book take down. The head and neck were keep safe from harm and unable to twist and bite.

If this man was only arrested because someone thought him dirty and loud, and he is sane and felt unjustifiably harassed that would be unfortunate-but until someone shows me proof he was only arrested because he was black or dirty looking its unfair to say so and you might unintentionally be encouraging police to ignore such people and not get them help because as it is police are reluctant to help the mentally ill for fear of public backlash and people interfering and pointing cameras at them and acting like judges and jurors on the spot without sufficient information.

That was my point. I don't think the woman meant any harm and was well intentioned yes. I don'\t doubt she felt she was helping but truthfully she didn't. She probably was simply easing her own liberal guilt feelings. I do not mean that as an insult but her reaction however genuine is a common one with decent people who feel genuine concern for such people-they pity such people but such people do not need pity they need medical care. Liberal do gooders don't get them food or medicine, police and medics do.

In Canada police as in the US have great difficulty with ARMED mentally ill people. It leads to unfortunate deaths. Yes. However having worked in the system I would assure you most mentally ill are of danger to themselves not others, and the police know how to handle them and the tragic cases that dominate the news are a minority, i.e., less than 5% of actual incidents with the mentally ill.

Yes the violent ones and/orwith weapons make it very very dangerous and unpredictable. A guy on crank, a guy in an acute rage with a weapon can have the strength of 10, 20 men. Men can literally walk through walls and smash down doors, flip cars, do incredible things when in a rage. Women too.

So let's focus on discussing what we can do for the mentally ill and not looking or excuses to (*)(*)(*)(*) on cops.

 

What a mess. If they'd only allow people real opportunity. In this day and age, life could be so much better.

 

Has this been inner city in anywhere USA the cops would never have shown up. 14 cops rushed to the scene to "protect" a very wealthy area. In no way could I see any of this being necessary. Especially once the 4 cops had the guy down.

 

I just see things differently. The bystander that seem to be speaking for the homeless man is something I support. I see nothing at all controversial about the woman and the police's reaction to her in the video. Cops have killed people in tense holds, it happens. She even states that it is what concerned her about the whole scene. So yes, I'm not seeing her interference as a problem. Police are people who need to be checked from time to time. I guess I'm not seeing how people being alarmed at a scene like this is pissing on the police.

Your point about the woman easing any liberal guilt sounds just like an assumption. I reckon it could be true, but there's no way to tell what her motivations were for speaking up. Besides, I don't see what political affiliation has to do with how people will react to seeing police take down someone like that. I would be more troubled if everyone just walked by unaffected by the scene.

 

Well by the looks of things , he doesn't have a leg to stand on.

 

"I'm not seeing her interference as a problem" exercising her constitutional right as a citizen is NOT interference. In fact what I saw was police more interested in attempting to block her view so she couldn't record the event. Is this some new police training tactic? If cops don't want their illegal actions recorded, they should abide by OUR constitutional rights and NOT violate them.
Other than that I agree with your post 100%

 

People that live in rich neighborhoods do not want poor people in their neighborhoods ...and that is the way it is...that is the way it was.. and that is the way it will always be. It is always that way.

If a rich person (not all maybe) sees a poor person "out of place in their place" they feel threatened. That is why they have gated communities.

And the police will always take care of people with wealth and influence first. It is called keeping their jobs.

 

This brutality is deplorable!