2 witnesses now corroborate Zimmerman's story - "MMA Style" beating

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  1. hiimjered

    hiimjered Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That is just as logical as this one:

    Martin saw someone in a car and decided that he wanted to mug the guy. Knowing the guy was neighborhood watch, he acted suspicious to draw the man's attention, then rushed off trying to bait the watchman out of his car. When the watchman was a good distance from the car, Martin jumped out of the shadows and proceeded to pummel Zimmerman, trying to knock him unconscious so Martin could take his wallet, keys and phone. Zimmerman, desperate to stay alive then pulled his gun and shot Martin.

    So on one hand you have a guy trying to keep an eye on his neighborhood and on the other you have a criminal who wanted to rob someone.

    Which individual do you think is more likely to begin an altercation?
     
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    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    C'mon now ... every other utterance coming from the Zimmerheads hosts the term Liberal in some form as enemies of mankind ... so quit with the faux outrage.
     
  3. jack4freedom

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    Aren't you one of the experts who insisted that he would never be charged or arrested? My geuss is that he will either go to trial or his lawyer will work out some sort of amicable plea bargain with the prosecution before trial....
     
  4. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It does appear that liberals, like you, are less interested in justice and more interested in a lynching. Why would that be? Well, it is because people like you think with emotion rather than logic. Emotion is not logic so people like you ignore evidence and pay more attention to your inner feelings and warped view of the real world.
     
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    He's no messiah, just a victim of a lynch mob. This is really very ugly.

    He was seen being beaten on the ground with Trayvon on top of him. There is no evidence that Zimmerman attacked Trayvon. There is evidence that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman.

    Zimmerman says that he was acting in self defense, and no one is able to prove anything different based on the evidence presented so far by the prosecution by a "special prosecutor" who did away with a

    grand jury. That was very foolish.


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    well they are. And they know zip about the law. Not to mention the fact that they're ALWAYS on the wrong side.
     
  7. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    There you go. The root cause of their emotional refusal to admit that things have changed based on the overwhelming evidence. They are in denial.


    Although, there is simply trolling to irritate conservatives, but that would be a failure due to our constant amusement at their twisted logic.


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    Well, if they are following you for no good reason and they come on to you like a gangbanger and make it clear you are not going to be allowed to go on about your legitimate business, you are authorized to use what force it takes.

    If you find out that he has a gun and is yelling for help like he expects his homies to come help him mug you, yeah, you have a right to take the gun away and smoke him if he tries to get it back.

    Dopy boy Z had a right to identify himself as Neighborhood Watch and to try to run.

    Full stop.
     
  9. Hoosier8

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    You do realize that Trayvon confronted Zimmerman, even by the lynching crowd standards since he asked the first question don't you?
     
  10. Hanzou

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    Except the evidence doesn't support that scenario.

    1. Trayvon had candy and a soft drink, and was talking to his girlfriend on the way home. Not the standard tools of a mugger.
    2. Martin's body was abou 100 yards away from Zimmerman's vehicle, and no where close to the road.
    3. How would Martin know that Zimmerman would get out of his car in the first place, or that he was neighbourhood watch?
     
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    LOLOL..

    I think James may be 16....
     
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    The reason Zimmerman wasn't charged with 1st Degree Murder is that there is no evidence that Zimmerman specifically targeted Martin ... that is, lying-in-wait for Martin or conspiring to kill Martin or some other intent to kill Martin specifically or any other proof that Zimmerman knew Martin ... the 911 call is the only proof of this ... as well as the 911 call proves that Zimmerman could have easily avoided it all but instead chose to confront Martin ...

    This is why Zimmerman will go down on 2nd Degree Murder.
     
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    You have SO deconstructed down to the point of no return,there is no help
    for your type.You,long ago gave up any notion of being rational and even-handed.
    That is the strength of Liberalism.To just toss out sawdust as if some magic
    fairy dust and miraculously things will materialize.Things will gel according to
    whatever kitschy,unrational and cruel narrative is being proffered.
    In short ... Devil Talk.
    What Dante warned of.
     
  14. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    This coming from somebody who's every post is in the the worst paragraph and sentence structure I've ever seen ... seriously dude ... what is that ?
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well maybe,just hopefully Dearie if you started to read me Posts instead of
    " seen " them you might be better prepared to an interpretation.
    Reading posts should not be confused with looking at {seen} someones
    Tattoo.
     
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    Nice to see the various shades of Racists crawling out of the woodwork as their absurd idol is unmasked as a Bozo.
    "Darling , put his name in the Black Book . Another one to file under , R ."
     
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    I believe you are not going to like the outcome:

    A defendant, under Florida law, loses his “stand your ground” defense if he provoked the encounter — but he retains traditional self-defense if he reasonably believed his life was in danger and his only recourse was to employ deadly force.

    Thus, if Zimmerman verbally provoked Martin, but Martin then got on top of Zimmerman and banged his head into the ground, broke his nose, bloodied his eyes and persisted in attacking Zimmerman — and if Zimmerman couldn’t protect himself from further attack except by shooting Martin — he would have the right to do that. (The prosecution has already admitted that it has no evidence that Zimmerman started the actual fight.)



    Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/...murder-charge-article-1.1080161#ixzz1vDZzxepa
     
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    LOL!!! You really have no idea what you are talking about.


    Let's say you are hit by a car that runs a red light on a surface street. The officer comments that you could have avoided the accident by taking the freeway.

    Is he wrong? Does it make you legally at fault for the accident?


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    Statistics hurt ?

    lets play a game.

    who is 7 times likely to be a killer than white? Asian, black or hispanic?
    who is 20 times likely to be in jail than white? Asian, black or hispanic?
     
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    No, it does not mean intent. It means that had Zimmerman done something differently the confrontation might not have occured. By saying it means intent, you are telling us you have the ability to enter Zimmerman's mind and know what he was thinking at the time. That is a wonderful gift and you should really share how you do it with the rest of the world. Zimmerman said he exited his car in order to get a house number so that he could better direct the police to the place where he was. That may or may not be true since, unlike you, I do not have the ability to enter his mind and know what he was thinking at the time.

    The evidence that has been released shows that Zimmerman did have injuries consistent with what he said had happened. The evidence also showed that Martin was shot from a distance of between one inch and eighteen inches, again, consistent with what Zimmerman said. It also shows that Martin had drugs in his system and bruised knuckles, again, in the case of the knuckle bruising, consistent with what Zimmerman said.

    Perhaps your cause would be better served if you stuck to the facts rather than telling us what Zimmerman thought.
     
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    Is it unlawful to call the cops and give an accurate discription of a person doing something that could be illegal? Since ALL the home invasions that had witnesses described seeing black male(s), wouldn't it be reasonable that the neighborhood watch would also see black males being suspicious?

    What does this have to do with the case?

    So maybe there should be a court case to decide if Z should be locked away for what happened that night?
     
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    You are what Communists call a "useful idiot": you are being manipulated by the statement that this was "avoidable by Zimmerman" in the same way that you were manipulated by the statement "Martin was shot at intermediate range".

    Unfortunately, it is far too easy for those with a goal of tearing down societal harmony to manipulate people like you. You've been conditioned to be so manipulated for years.

    Only the strongest - Conservatives - appear to have any resistance to this form of manipulation.
     
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    Racism and injustice doesn't enhance societal harmony... It never has.. That's why we got rid of slavery and Jim Crow.

     
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