2016, What armed self-defense looks like.

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  1. Maccabee

    Maccabee Well-Known Member

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    I thought I saw a couple earlier in this thread but I have to dig through 20 pages.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://abc11.com/news/suspect-shot-by-homeowner-while-trying-to-break-in/1627762/
    Another non-victim, eh?
     
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    This may not really belong here, but I didn't want to start a new thread. I was intrigued to see this article in the Guardian:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/dec/01/parents-disarm-teen-guns-utah-school-mueller-park

    Extract:
    Police said two fast-acting Utah parents disarmed their 15-year-old son in the hallway of a Utah junior high school Thursday after the teenager brought the family’s shotgun and handgun to school, discharging at least one round without injuring anyone.

    Police chief Tom Ross of Bountiful, a city in northern Utah, said the boy’s mother and father became concerned about their son Thursday morning. They went to Mueller Park junior high when they noticed a handgun and shotgun were missing from their home. Ross said the parents confronted their son in a school hallway and disarmed him.


    Good for the parents, but how would the boy have got his hands on the weapons? Aren't they supposed to be secured so children can't access them? I don't live in a country with easy access to guns so I've no idea what precautions should be taken.
     
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    Small Town Guy Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Thanks for the post. As to your question...State laws vary but some don't have laws on how you have to store your weapons. That being said I personally believe it is foolish to leave weapons in a manner that a youngster can easily retrieve them.
     
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    http://concealednation.org/2016/11/...ills-intruder-during-organized-home-invasion/
    Why wouldn't you just throw a frying pan at these guys? :roll::roll:
     
  8. Diablo

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    It's a bit surprising that there are no laws in some States regarding safe storage of weapons. The thought of guns lying around for anyone to pick up is scary.
     
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    "lying around for anyone to pick up" is most hyperbole. The reason that we don't have those kinds of laws is that they aren't enforceable due to 4th Amendment protections. DC v Heller also prevents that kind of requirement.

    Like Small Town Guy, I also feel that it's foolish, and I'll add criminal, to leave a firearm where a child can access it. I bought a gun safe before I brought my first gun into my home.
     
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    Oh, OK, I get it. Is there any sanction, though, against people who are careless with their weapons and consequently cause injury or death indirectly? A similar scenario might be leaving drugs lying around instead of being locked in a cabinet.
     
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    In many cases they can be prosecuted criminally, but prosecutors are reluctant to prosecute a parent after the loss of a child. They are definitely civilly liable.
     
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    I'm glad I don't have to worry about this. Life is busy enough anyway without having to decide which gun to buy, choose the ammo, practise with it, keep it safe, and be prepared to kill someone with it as well as keeping it out of the hands of children.
     
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    It's actually not that difficult. Do be careful on the sidewalks and in the nightclubs.
     
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    The issues are the same with cars, knives, pills, poisons, bats and fists. You have things to worry about, just not guns in your world.
     
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    http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2016/12/ca-antioch-resident-shoots-kills-man.html?m=1
    He died, won't be breaking into anymore homes, eh?
     
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    http://www.kristv.com/story/3381603...shoots-at-burglar-trying-to-get-into-his-home
    There's an underlying theme here, don't break into places you don't have a right to be....it could be fatal, eh?
     
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    For sure, but it's one less.
     
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    http://concealednation.org/2016/12/...dered-by-his-own-associates-now-they-all-pay/
    Nowhere Alaska, yeah I woulda waited for the cops or maybe thrown a frying pan at em....wait wait I know I would have talked nice to them and given them what they wanted.....NOT!!!
     
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    http://www.dailyprogress.com/starex...cle_d4ff5633-6da1-5d4b-ba29-b2c5ce92e6b6.html
    Viola, victim safe criminal dead!
     
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    http://wncn.com/2016/12/01/fayetteville-homeowner-shoots-intruder-twice-police-say/
    Another criminal deterred another victim safe.....seems a lot of people own guns now, eh?
     
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    http://www.mccookgazette.com/story/2365035.html
    Rural Kansas....how long would of the response time been? Those of you wanna be victims (no guns) need to practice saying, "coffee anyone" while you wait for the calvary.
     
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    http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/culpeper-homeowner-shoots-armed-intruder-dead/362159808
    WOW, OK the bad guy got his gun taken away...good move victim, and 10 minutes later the police arrived! OH the bad guy didn't make it.
     
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    Was that a Freudian slip or a typo?
     

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