50,000 Years Old Emerald Tablets Of Thoth from Atlantics found.

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  1. Wizard From Oz

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    Why? What are the specific obstacles that modern man would not be able to overcome? There are really only two things you need to build a pyramid. Time and organization
     
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    don't you mean what are the obstacles ancient man would need to overcome, do you think modern man could do it without any modern tools? it would be a chore with modern tools, let alone without them

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    Your claim was modern man using traditional methods could not build the pyramids - I asked you specifically what obstacles would be there to stop us building such a structure. I have watched two Egyptian stone masons lift a 1 tone block at least five feet into their with no mechanical means. Took them less than a couple of minutes.

    It was the same when they tested if Ceasers engineers could bridge the Rhine river in three days. General thought was it was impossible and just a story. A group of army engineers using only what techniques the Romans had available proved them wrong
     
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    show me where I said that..
     
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    1000 tons, that's right. Do you know How many modern mobile crane does it need to lift that one? 21 of them !!! What technique they could have to replace 21 modern cranes just to move it? Levitation? But that's advanced alien lost science.
     
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    The Great Tribulation has not started yet. The worst has not yet come.
     
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    The Great pyramid is a lot more amazing than you made it out to be.

    Its precision that today's modern science and equippments can't even remake it. The alignment of the stars of Pyramids could only be built by someone have extraordinary astronomy knowledge and see it in the air.

    As you said, the ancient Egyptians are primitive bunch, where do they obtain such advanced knowledge?
     
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    You mistake rudimentary knowledge with advanced knowledge.

    Of course the pyramids can be built today using nothing more than the tools available at the time they were originally built. Of course you need a labour force of tens of thousands and no building or safety codes.

    As to astronomical alignments, this isn't advanced knowledge at all. For thousands of years man has stared at the stars and patterns emerge that coincide with the seasons. Understanding these movements was critical to an agrarian society - knowing when to plant, when to harvest, etc.

    Every culture used the (dis)appearance of stars and their alignments as calendars. Stonehenge was rougly contemporary with the pyramids, for instance. The polynesians were accomplished ocean navigators using nothing more than the stars at roughly the same time.

    Try as you might, your von daniken perspective is nothing more than wishful thinking.
     
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    From your post

     
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    Where do you get the figure of 21 cranes? And why are you trying to lift the stone, you only need to lever it
     
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    And one wonders why these super advanced people allowed ordinary workers to trash talk each other with graffiti on the stones. They may have been a primitive people but they sure understood the art of the put down lol
     
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    an absolute fraud from wacko world...
     
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    LOL. Everything you say above are false. ON PURPOSE, I rattled your comfort zone......hahahah.
     
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    none of it's lost science... the Egyptians were thoughtful enough to record much of the process, simple tools, simple engineering, time and organization...
     
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    Are you arguing sites like Stonehenge and Woodhenge don't have astronomical sightings built into their design
     
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    From a documentary show....they were talking about mega-buildings from around the world. I want to show you, it was very good show, I don't think I can find it though. That's like 4,5 years ago.

    They got to lift it to move to the location and stack on it.
     
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    I was arguing it was the advanced aliens who taught ancient human sophisticated astronomy into their design
     
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    my father had a number of careers in his 80 yrs, one of them a stone mason...he was amused at the "Egyptian/alien" engineering mystery, he used many of the same building techniques as do stone mason all over the world...
     
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    The Egyptians have the record of how they built the Great Pyramid in Giza?
     
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    lol. compare his stone mason to the world wonder, the Great Pyramid?

    Is his stone mason alignment with the stars? And built with 2-5 tons of stones each? and all that below:

    "The centers of the four sides are indented with an extraordinary degree of precision forming the only 8 sided pyramid, this effect is not visible from the ground or from a distance but only from the air, and then only under the proper lighting conditions. This phenomenon is only detectable from the air at dawn and sunset on the spring and autumn equinoxes, when the sun casts shadows on the pyramid.

    Center of Land Mass: The Great Pyramid is located at the center of the land mass of the earth. The east/west parallel that crosses the most land and the north/south meridian that crosses the most land intersect in two places on the earth, one in the ocean and the other at the Great Pyramid.

    The weight of the pyramid is estimated at 5,955,000 tons. Multiplied by 10^8 gives a reasonable estimate of the earth’s mass.

    The relationship between Pi (p) and Phi (F) is expressed in the fundamental proportions of the Great Pyramid.....
     
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    ud51abd648.jpg here is a tomb picture showing them moving a 250 ton statue(the statue still exists) so moving a considerably smaller pyramid stone is a piece of cake...there are also tomb pictures showing how they moved smaller stones...their tools have found by archeologists as well as the pyramidal construction sites and ramps, this is only a mystery to the uniformed, not to archeologists...
     
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    Not a student of history, nor cultural anthropology it seems.

    do you alway dismiss facts? never mind.....
     
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    yup...north, south, east west are very simple concepts...the planet moves so star alignment isn't constant, seasonal alignment is very simple......

    I can match that precision with stone mason tricks my father taught me, ridiculously simple once you know how...your measured indentation is a fantasy as the outer layer of the great pyramid was stripped away centuries ago...

    and you can see canals on mars if you want to see them bad enough...

    and if you multiply the weight of my house by x you can also give a reasonable estimate of the earths mass, you can make any number fit if you try...


    and? and a greek living in eygpt determined the approximate circumference of the earth using simple methods, these people were as intelligent as anyone living today...just because some mathematical insight/process is beyond your comprehension it's arrogant to assume it was beyond the ability of people in the ancient past...
     
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    That's was not the Great Pyramid, that was a status.

    I didn't say there were no labors involved, but they couldn't build it without advanced intelligent guides. They couldn't build it without outside help.

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    Same to you....
     
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    yeah, 1st something written 50K yrs old would be impossible to interpret as there is no continuous evolution of written language to compare to...the oldest written language that I'm aware of is Sumerian and that's about 5K yrs old(it's not definitely not Sumerian)...3rd, I see Greek symbols in the picture which is only about 3K yrs old...
     

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