50% of us are poor and low income; what are we doing about this?

Originally Posted by Veni-Vidi-Feces View Post
The poor are owed a lot they live on the bottom rung of the socioeconomic ladder and for every day they do not go all bastille day on all those who are lucky enough not to be poor they should be thanked. The bottom rung is getting to be more and more difficult in our nation, them poor folks tolerate a lot of crap.

Originally Posted by Bluesguy View Post
And what do they owe in return?

What do they owe now in return? If we are obliged to give them our money to live off of what are they obliged to us?

 

Why hasn't this thread been shut down yet??

 

This is funny after the whole birth control debate.

Yeah without decent birth control this is what happens.

 

Because they never learned responsibility, they learned dependency, and they were taught by the rich/elites government how to be dependent on that government to eliminate competition. This is all part of an orchestrated deterioration of a once great nation.

Decades of manipulation went into creating this debauchery. If it wasn't so disgusting it would be praised for it's ingenuity, and it's results.

 

Simply solving for official poverty could improve our general welfare and standard of living in a corresponding manner.

 

Free Trade isn't Economic Freedom, its economic Fascism. What we need is fair trade, not controlled trade like we get with the WTO

 

Our Space Race worked pretty well; why not try to improve on that historical fact.

 

I guess true witness bearing can be scary for some.

 

Why is it so difficult to convince people to be moral enough to bear true witness to our own laws, simply for the sake of that form of moral absolutism?

From my perspective, there must be some fundamental flaw with our current regime, if the private sector doesn't seem to know what do with easy money, easy sex, and easy morals, on a longitudinal basis.

From another perspective, how can capital ever be considered a problem in any capital based economy; in my opinion, that can only happen with a lack of faith in capitalism.

 

How do you define "moral"? What is moral to you might not be moral for others. There is no such thing as "one size fits all" solution. You're either too ignorant to too naive to realize that simple concept.

There is no perfect system, however, a true capitalism by far is superior system to any econ system. To deny that fact is ridiculous.

LMAO!!!! Again this is came from the guy who earlier stated and I quote "I believe in capitalsim". Another socialist got caught lying through his teeth again.

And for the record, there are plenty of faith in capitalism, unfortunately, those faith do not fit in your liberalism/socialism propaganda that's only reason why liberal bunch keeps whining every single day.

 

Now I'm totally convinced that you're on heavy crack. People like you scare the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of me.

 

This will never work! You ignore the tiny little fact that the US operates in a global economy. This means US business must compete with global business. In order to compete, US costs of doing business must be similar to the costs of doing business off-shore...

 

Should be exactly half...

 

Go back and read some of the posts which clearly show the equal opportunities afforded to all Americans...

 

The median itself is the precise middle. Thus there is slightly less than half below the median, slightly less than half above the median and the median number itself making up the difference.

 

This is incorrect. Every one earning the median income and above should be able to do just fine. Those who live beyond their means, who save no cash, will always be in trouble no matter their incomes. Most people in the USA are productive and in a position to enjoy life...have a booming time!

 

Once again...Because every one of us, depending on the external motivation, are susceptible to immoral and unethical behaviors!

You must think we are some supreme human race when in fact we barely have one foot out of the primordial muck! We have not yet evolved to being able to solve complex problems and challenges. 10-15% of Americans are in jail! Another 25% cheat and lie and steal, etc. and don't get caught.

We're simply too stupid to do better at this time...

 

You are assuming there are an 'odd' number of observations. If there are, then you are correct. If there are an 'even' number of observations, then I am correct...

 

Still BS, the chances everyone gets vary wildly depending on a whole number of factors, a lot of wich you have little or no choice .

 

ANd that is simply impossible. Or you must propose lowering working standars and salaries to that of china/india/brazil, wich means cutting them almost tenfold.

Those jobs are gone, accept it and adapt .

 

Other than eating one another what do you suggest people do for jobs that are no longer available but needed to keep an economy, any economy strong?
　
You are both living in a fantasy world. The cost of living is way to high here to have people working for $2.50 12-16 hours a day, and adapting to what exactly, soup lines?
　
People with masters degrees working at Macky D's?? You are both delusional, and talking out your arses.
　
This country will never rebound if we keep letting the people who created the situation to have absolute control of the government. D’s and R’s are business as usual, they are the problem not the next viable solution.

 

You have misconstrued the premise of the post. What I am suggesting in the post is that it is everyone's responsibility to behave in a civilized manner as well as practice civilization. Being that it is said that government 'is the people' well in that aspect it is government's responsibility, but I digress.
Suffice it to say, that if we truly lived in a civilized society, such issues and topics would not be up for discussion being that they would be nonexistent.

 

Low income receives Federal subsidies in the form of EIC, foodstamp, medicaid...etc every year. I do support some welfare program in a productive way, if it is an incentive such as earned income tax credit, then I'm okay with it. As long as they contribute something to the society rather sitting their asses on the coach all day while collecting ue checks every week.

 

　
Nice propaganda. To bad the Federal Minimum Wage is $7.25 an hour.

Well, what is their degree in, and how good are they?

I have met people with degrees that did not have a clue in anything dealing with business, or computers, or management. A degree only means that you can answer the questions expected of you. Not that you are actually intelligent or can do a job needed.

Personally, I think degrees are over-rated. And if somebody with a degree is not capable of anything else, let them work for minimum wage at McDonalds.

 

the problem is government- the federal gov creates so many regulations, it takes a room ful of lawyers for a buissness to grow, even if it's small. Steve jobs could have never started apple with these regulations implaced. And the tens of thousands of apple employees would not have a job. Get rid of the high taxes and regulatoins and more jobs will be created, lifting many out of poverty