A Challenge to every Republican on this Forum

This is my challenge to every Republican. Read the 1956 Republican Platform.

I know that few of you will do this. Those of you who have the courage to do so will have to face a terrible truth: the once-great party of Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Eisenhower has been utterly destroyed. The GOP of today has declined to an abject nadir once enjoyed by the Democrats in the Know-Nothing era.

 

*We are proud of and shall continue our far-reaching and sound advances in matters of basic human needs—expansion of social security—broadened coverage in unemployment insurance —improved housing—and better health protection for all our people. We are determined that our government remain warmly responsive to the urgent social and economic problems of our people.

*We shall continue vigorously to support the United Nations.

*Good times in America have reached a breadth and depth never before known by any nation. Moreover, it is a prosperity of a nation at peace, not at war.

*Further reductions in taxes with particular consideration for low and middle income families.

*Under the Republican Administration, as our country has prospered, so have its people. This is as it should be, for as President Eisenhower said: "Labor is the United States. The men and women, who with their minds, their hearts and hands, create the wealth that is shared in this country—they are America."

* The Federal minimum wage has been raised for more than 2 million workers. Social Security has been extended to an additional 10 million workers and the benefits raised for 6 1/2 million. The protection of unemployment insurance has been brought to 4 million additional workers.

*All workers have gained and unions have grown in strength and responsibility, and have increased their membership by 2 millions.

*Stimulate improved job safety of our workers, through assistance to the States, employees and employers;

*Continue and further perfect its programs of assistance to the millions of workers with special employment problems, such as older workers, handicapped workers, members of minority groups, and migratory workers.

 

And yet at that time 65% of the budget was spent on national defense and most of the rest went to build the interstate highway system.

 

Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt were both top 5 worst Presidents in my view. Ike was very decent for a 20th century President.

In the early 20th century both parties were united along occasionally Progressive, occasionally proto-Fascist lines.

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A look at the Democratic platform back then is equally frightening: prohibition, the drug war, internment camps, 90% tax rates, etc.

 

I'm curious. Based on what metrics?

 

I'm not a Republican. Your OP is completely lacking in causal reasoning between 1. whatever specific things it is you are citing to in the massive (and massively vague) platform you challenge people to read but don't explain a lick of, things that you don't tell us, and 2. whatever specific things... again that you don't tell us... founding the vague conclusions you are attempting to draw, Essentially, your OP is a whole bunch of hot air, looks like the product of a sophomore dorm bong session.

 

In no particular order, but I've bolded what I view as the most significant:

Lincoln:

-Introduced the national income tax
-Raised tariffs
-Land-grants for colleges
-Department of Agriculture
-Assumed dictatorial powers in the civil war
-Suspension of habeas corpus
-Infrastructure spending in the mode of Henry Clay
-Forever doomed the US to a government of Hamilton rather than Henry
-Costly and unnecessary civil war to protect northern interests and further dismantle what then remained of federalism
-Exploded the size of government from then on - look at a graph of Federal spending
-Inflationary monetary policy which has become the norm

Roosevelt:

-Absolutely brutal, racist foreign policy.
-Intervention and occupation all over the Caribbean.
-Segregation of Japanese
-Openly and proudly stole the Panama Canal
-Expanded the executive at the loss of the legislature, frequently acted contrary to his role as executive.
-A virulent progressive who enacted strong government control of industry.
-Created the FDA.
-Crushed local autonomy through the Dept of Commerce
-Created the national parks system
-Federal interference in strikes and labor disputes
-Directly responsible for Wilson (who I view as by far the worst President) taking office.

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Both are absolutely intolerable in my view.

 

Yes, the Republican Party is and was the party of civil rights. If you want proof of that, just check out all the civil rights platforms in the GOP since it's inception.

Republican Platforms Support Civil Rights

Now go look at the Democratic Party's 1956 Platform and see how they
complained that the GOP was using the Supreme Court to push through
segregation in their platform.

 

I dunno...Seems the same that Republicans represent today....Basically. You can't seriously make a direct comparison between 1956 and 2016.

 

A national platform is the blueprint of the character of a political party. It tells you what it stands for and where it wants to go with the country.

The whole point, which should have been fairly obvious, is to objectively document the massive changes that have occurred in the Republican Party since 1956. By way of contrast is the latest Republican Platform:

Republican Platform 2012

I'm not going to explain the painfully obvious to anyone - that's a pointless exercise. I'm not offering opinions at all, just giving you the relevant documents. If you can't see the change that has occurred, so be it.

 

see thats the globalist republican party. The one that supports the UN, is ok with having illegals take all the jobs in country and send it abroad, provide for the defense of europe while they use their money for social services, tpp. Basically thats the republican party that has put in place structures which made america a colony of Europe again. It may have worked then when europe and china were too weak to take advantage of it but it doesnt work now.

Conservative Nationalism is where its at now

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yes we can see the change and good riddance to the old gop.

 

No, a platform is a campaigning document, kernels of specificity in it, but mostly vague and null. The blueprint of the character of a political party is their actual record of achievement and policies, ascertained in various ways.

But you didn't do that. You linked a long platform, as windy and gaseous as all of them are, without pointing to a single specific plank of it as an example of anything, good or ill. Then you made hyperbolic claims about some kind of nadir that included no specifics whatsoever. Now you are doing the same thing with this more recent platform, linking it with no material commentary accompanying.

The only thing painfully obvious is that as it stands, your thread says nothing specific enough to be worth discussing, and is another ho-hum leftist exercise in "Republican...grrr... bad! Republican BAD!".

 

Hmm...

The 2012 GOP is no homage to conservative nationalism...but maybe you're right. Only time will tell.

BTW, are you familiar with the paleo-conservative rag American Conservative? I'm not a conservative, but it has some of the best damn political writing around. They seem close to your outlook. Check this out: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/what-wrong-with-trump-voters-republican-gop/

 

What exactly am I looking for?

Would you mind copying and pasting the part you're talking about?

Or is this another lame democrat attempt to baffle with BS, rather than dazzle with brilliance?

How about before I take you up on your challenge, you read http://www.britannica.com/

and then face the terrible truth that... umm... you really didn't read it all because you're not even sure what I'm babbling about.

 

Exactly. 1956 is not 2016, nor 1861, nor 1901. I'm sure we could pick arbitrary party platforms from everyone and have some fun with it, but it doesn't really mean anything. Here's the Whig platform from 1844: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=25852 Doesn't even have bullet points.

 

You want us to regress back 60 years?

 

so u base your party affiliation on a platform that is 60 years old
that does not help yourself in being taken seriously but i guess it kinda explains your other outdated views

 

Most everyone yearns to belong to some group so as to feel included and empowered. The group may be the PTA, neighborhood watch, credit union board, country club, supporting a sport team, or political party. Belonging to a political party and supporting their candidate regardless of your personal leanings regarding the military, taxes, budgets, borders, social engineering, and a host of other policies, is bringing down our country. IMO we should all register as an independent and make the parties work for our votes. Then we would vote for the person. Total party loyalty is akin to being in slavery. Is there a republican who wants to vote for Hillary?

 

Hey, read the OP. That is what the frickin' thread is about.

 

I have to correct my post above and ask once again, what is your point? Just look at the long history of racism of the Democratic Party as opposed to the long history of civil rights which is pointed out in my link to every GOP platform since it began.

Here is the Democratic Party's 1956 Convention Platform which is complaining
about the Supreme Court and the Republican Party forcing them to treat black
people like human beings and end segregation in their schools North, South, East
and West:

Just look at their party platform above. What a bunch of crap. They say they are proud of their "proud of the record of the Democratic Party in securing equality of treatment and opportunity", They were the ones doing all of the discrimination for all those decades!

After spouting lies about their history and record then they have the audacity to follow up with a complaint about the Republican Party using the Supreme Court (Brown vs the Board of Education) to force the Democratic Party to desegregate schools and other places!!!

Yes, I do, and of the complete history of the political party. I would not want to be associated with the Democratic Party and their long history of racism. Not just from 60 years ago, But even in the last 50 years. I am old enough to remember the Democratic Party nearly nominating an extremist segregationist for president of the United States. I remember him winning 6 Democratic Party Primaries. This was not in 1948, this was in 1972, eight years AFTER the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Democrats want to ban the Confederate Flag. I am fine with that. We should also ban the Democratic Party because of their history as well.

And what about freedom and liberty is an outdated view? That is what the Republican Party stands for. I'll tell you what is an outdated view, judging everyone based on the color of their skin, something democrats can't stop themselves from doing.

 

Theoretically, but the reality is that it's all a bunch of B.S. None of the platforms state - "We want more debt on future generations! Trillions and trillions in debt! And it will be good for us! We should want more!"

So with political platforms, as with everything politicians say, it's what they DON'T say that matters more. The political parties and the mainstream media constantly do something called LYING BY OMISSION.

 

Black Republicans have their meeting:








But they forgot to invite any blacks!

 

I was an adult in 1956 so am familiar with the times.

I also looked at today's employment figures. Ike had 67 million working.

Population growth in the USA has close to doubled. Today we have 121 million working.

We need about 135 million employed to match Ike's era.

We have the worst labor force penetration in history.

Also, that is about the same republican platform as then but for the defeat of the soviet ideology for the most part.

https://www.google.com/webhp?source...1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#safe=off&q=usa+workers+2016

 

It is easy to find Black republicans.
https://www.gop.com/groups/black-republican-activists/

https://www.gop.com/honoring-black-republican-trailblazers-during-black-history-month/

Go to the sites to be educated

 

Let me add to Abe the outlaw

Attacked states
His war caused the deaths of over 630,000 americans.

To put this into context, his war killed more men in combat than all other wars combined.

As bad as WW 2 or 1 was, they pale compared to the mass killing that took place due to the South being invaded.

Today people think it was slavery. But Abe promised he would not invade due to slavery.

And make no mistake, if you want to discuss Sumpter, be honest and admit the cannon fire never harmed any inside the fort. Property damage should never end up in war.

The cannons of that era were just far too low powered to do damage that far from shore.