A little perspective on the chance that you will be a victim

I bet more honest Americans agree with me than with you. anyone with a brain who owns a gun opposes registration. and if the government can stop you from owning your 20th gun, it can stop you from owning your second gun. where does the government suddenly get the constitutional power to ban you from exercising your rights based on your prior exercise of that right?

 

I don't hate you. I don't hate cockroaches either. I don't invest hatred into people like you. its not worth the effort

 

The Vegas shooter was an 'honest' guy with a profile just like yours with a vast arsenal of weaponry until one day ....... he decided not to be

 

Then ignore me. I am sick of your personal insults. They derail the thread and are unfair to others who want honest debate

 

and no law being proposed that has a chance of passing can stop that guy. even Diane Feinstein admitted that

 

then stop posting nonsense and dishonest silliness on this thread. Like ITS JUST A FORM OVER AND OVER AND OVER

 

Nonsensical denial and you know it is too given the number and type of weapons he had

 

The “type” of firearms that he had are the most commonly owned rifle in the country. There is no law other than an outright ban and confiscation that could have prevented him from what he did.

 

Of course there is. His room was almost piled high with lethal weaponry and ammunition he had been taking in for days including technically legal enhancements that increased their lethality much further. Just like many here probably have done to theirs

 

The burden of proof is on yourself to demonstrate that the presented position can indeed work as claimed. Merely claiming that there is a so-called "ton of evidence" does not actually amount to evidence, nor does it explain the methodology of success. Demonstrate how such works, and prove that it is known by yourself exactly what mechanics are at work.

 

How are legal firearm owners harassing anyone, much less the victims of violent criminal acts?

Following such logic, every advocate of legal marijuana is guilty of harassing those who have lost loved ones due to the illegal use of such prohibited substances.

 

No it is not. This is a gun control forum. You discuss your plan for gun control and you back it up with evidence. If you have no plan for gun control and are happy with the current death toll you should go find a gun lovers forum. Bring a plan to the table....or be dismissed

 

Such measures are already in place in the state of California, and have been for years now. Yet according to the ATF, nearly half of all firearms found in criminal possession and submitted for tracing, were originally sold in the state of California to begin with. Despite all of their registration and background check requirements, at least forty percent of all firearms in criminal possession were sold in compliance with the rules and regulations in the state of California.

 

Then what could have prevented such from happening? Explain such, and how such a course of action would actually work.

 

The proposed plan is quite simple. All violent offenders are subjected to either the death penalty, or indefinite confinement for the duration of their lives, never to be allowed back into society where they can harm to others. No second chances, no parole, no probation, no plea bargains, no becoming career criminals. If one commits murder, they have relinquished any and all right to be free in society, and have by extension relinquished their right to life as they violated the rights of others.

 

I need to see scientific evidence to the point of causation that this will work or else never ask me for evidence. Where is this being done now successfully?

 

Limiting the type and number of guns that he could posses. Why is explaining the painfully obvious to you guys such a revelation for you ?

 

Are you suggesting that someone with his means couldn't have acquired any number of firearms of any type?

 

Well he certainly couldnt have done so here. Why do you think that might be ?

 

The shooters in Paris didn't have any trouble getting the totally prohibited guns they used to kill over a hundred people with. Why do you think that is?

 

He might have been able to if he could have found the guys doing this importing:

"The 22 Kalashnikov-style assault rifles and nine machine guns were described by police from the National Crime Agency as “mass casualty weapons”. They were intercepted in an operation led by the NCA after being smuggled from eastern Europe to France and across the Channel in a motor boat which docked in Kent last August."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-of-uks-largest-known-gun-smuggling-operation

 

What about the nearly 500,000 people dying yearly due to Tobacco and Tobacco related illnesses ?
Why not address that if preventable deaths are indeed a topic of concern ?

 

What is so special about gun deaths ?
What about nearly half a million Tobacco deaths each year ?

 

Yes we should. We can do more than one thing at a time

 

What your poor accounting skills and your blind inability to discern leads you and many others astray.
Here in the U.S. over 90% of crime and Criminal activity is being commited by people with long histories of crime beginning in their youth and are prohibited from owning firearms.

People with no criminal history that lawfully own firearms and have concealed carry permits number in the millions and are not the ones commiting crimes and murder.