A Plot to Overturn an American Election

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  1. MJ Davies

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    NO Federal taxes paid for years.


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    If believing all of that nonsense makes it easier to go about your life, power to ya man. The lengths folks are willing to go to avoid having to admit that Trump took you for a ride with his stolen election bullcrap is astounding at times. It's also a very sobering reminder of how things were able to get that far in the first place. The devotion to this man and all of his fake narratives is powerful enough in some to overrule reason and common sense. It's hardly surprising that he was able to get all those folks to show up in D.C. and riot in the Capital building. He may not have planned on the latter, but that's just a testament to his not understanding the consequences of his actions because he only focused on himself. He gave no thought or consideration to what his lies were doing to the thousands of folks who believed them. That's born of incompetence, gross negligence, and one giant heaping load of apathy driven by self-obsession.
     
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    Just how many? There were thousands of protestors in DC then.
     
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    Your comment is a "what if".... you gave no points, just "what if"... this reminds me of a conversation with my grandchild.
     
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    BS. That can't be determined outside a courtroom. Because they didn't confess to the crimes you want them to confess to does not mean they either lied or misrepresented anything.
     
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    Right back at ya. So again what were the consequences calling for the preceding summer's riots which resulted in 2 billion in damages, and at least 20 deaths. The willingness of leftist two exempt their own from the same ridiculous standards they set for everyone else never ceases to amaze.

    Your VP bailed out arsonist among others felons and that leftist city within a city in Seattle is by any definition an insurrection and inspite of murdering two black teenagers no one has ever faced any criminal charges let alone gone to jail.
     
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    They are under the illusion they are the majority. I know the frown upon education as what-is-their-new-slur "woke" but 27% is not anywhere close to ant kind of majority,

    Plus, not all Rs aren't committing crimes and raising hell all over the country which means MAGAs have to be less than 27%.

    Some of the cop beating insurrectionists didn't even vote in 2020 and some weren't even registered. To us, that is even MORE evidence that it's not only possible, but probable the Toxic Traitor lost. [We know he did. Powell, Rudy and Crenshaw have already admitted it publicly.]

    They just like to ignore anything they don't like. I get that but sending a known liar money is beyond comprehension. /smdh

    PS They need a new tagline since we can definitely rule out

    "law and order"
    "family values"
    "moral majority"

    Standing with Russia whose soldiers are tying up adults and raping kids, even toddlers and infants and raping both men and women...is as far away from any of the above claims as one can be. It's indefensible to back a traitor to one's country but one that backs a dictator that excuses these war crimes is unconsciousable.
     
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    Mnuchin committed crimes to protect the Traitor's taxes from being released.

    Basically, Republicans thought it was a good idea to nominate a mafia boss with the mentality of a toddler with absolutely no common sense, ethics, morals, values, diplomacy or even nice hair and a worse personality.

    He used every layer of our government as his own representation and connections with international governments as his personal lenders for admission costs to interfere in our elections.

    2016 - Russia
    2020 - Russia
    2022 - Saudi Arabia

    /smdh

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    That's about as basic of a reply as you can get. And dead spot on.
     
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    We need new laws. A release for tax returns has to be signed and the documents received before a nominee can officially participate in the campaign process.

    I don't like them for helping our fPOTUS betray our country and will not speak to any of them ever again in life but this makes me angry.

    He stole from his own donors who are paying their taxes. He left many without money for bills, food and Rxs and had his staff ignore their complaints. $122.7M.

    /smdh


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    So much winning. He must be tired of it. This is a lesson of how to take a large stash (his father's inheritance) and convert it into a small stash by losing money. Of course, the other possibility is that these are just fake losses for tax write-off purposes, by misappraising properties. Now, who wants to bet which one it is, he is a loser, or he is a cheat.

    And to think that so many people are still falling for his spiel and would happily vote for him again....
     
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    New tax laws would be a good beginning. Watertight laws without loopholes.
    At last the blinkers are beginning to fall from their eyes and his previous backers are able to admit that he fooled them.
    The degree to which he did this is staggering.
    The hypocritical posturing “ it’s all for my country. I won’t play much golf, etc, etc” was stomach turning.
    How could anyone vote for such a self serving, smug weasel?
     
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    Agreed. It would be good to know who may potentially own possible future presidents. Just call me a Patriot, I guess.
     
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    I have stated multiples time for my part that anyone who rioted in 2020 deserves to be locked up. I don't control what the Democratic party politicians do, I'm not responsible for it, and I don't and won't defend it. Harris is a moron. I didn't vote for Biden or her, and I didn't tell anyone else to either. I won't be voting for one or both of them in 2024 if they're on the ticket either.

    THAT'S the difference between you and me. You're willing to support politicians who hurt this country while simultaneously complaining about others who do the same. If you've got a problem with rioters in 2020 and the Democratic politicians who helped whip those mouth breathers into a frenzy, then logic states you should have a problem with Trump for doing literally the exact same thing. You don't see me defending the Democrat's actions in the summer of 2020 while condemning Trump, do you? I condemn ALL rioters, regardless of why they are rioting or what side of the political aisle they come from and I condemn those folks who helped them riot(whether by material support or moral/political support) and who helped keep them out of trouble for it. Can you say the same?
     
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    We definitely need a law that requires ANYBODY running for public office, from President to Dog Catcher, to release their tax returns. And that anybody CURRENTLY in elected office release theirs or not be able to run for re-elections.

    This must include appointed officials, especially Supreme Court Justices.
     
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    Good idea.
     
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    Trump: LOCK HIM UP. Been posting this since it became obvious he was attempting to overthrow the government of the United State in Dec of 2020.
     
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    The fact that you think Trump hurt this country is what I find absurd. Almost everything leftist blame Trump began way before Trump. People have always thought elections were rigged. If I had dime for every time someone told me that elections were rigged I'd be a millionaire. First time I heard that I was working a summer job when I was in highschool in the sixties the only thing Trump did differently was talk back to the alphabet soup media when they launched there adhom attacks against him.
     
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    I know you find it absurd, because you're biased. Trump's being bad for America goes beyond just policy. We're not computers, we don't operate on pure logic. When talking about a politician, the way they carry themselves, the way they represent our country, the way they interact with the people and institutions in our country, all of it matters. Policy is just one part of it. A country is not a business, and the bottom line is not the only thing that matters. Trump's failings are failings of character, decency, morality, professionalism, and responsibility. Yes, some of the policies his administration pursued aren't bad. Prison reform, prescription drug cost reform, even Operation Warp Speed were all good things. But Trump's character poisons everything, even the good things.

    If you want a Trump style politician with less of the toxic bullshit that makes Trump such a bad person and politician, go with DeSantis.

    And yes, it's true that there are always folks who think elections were rigged, but never before at least in living memory have we had a U.S. President who tried to overturn his own election and install himself as president which is EXACTLY what Trump tried to do.
     
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    That is the most idealized view of the Washington D.C. cesspool of grift and avarice I have ever read.
     
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    Then perhaps you have been living in an alternate reality for far too long.
     
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    I wish it were true. But like a move, when you walk the set, you see it is all fake. But, what ever keeps you happy.
     

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