A question to lifers: why was the holocaust bad?

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  1. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    I have noticed lifers are very fond of invoking Godwin's law in just about every conversation, that is, they use holocaust analogies and references plus Nazi accusations and the like which are littered throughout lifer arguments. It is often asserted 'oh well if killing a fetus isnt bad, what was bad about the holocaust'? or "if killing a fetus isnt bad, what's bad about killing a few million Jews"?

    Given I have answered everyone of these questions from a pro-abortion perspective and ethical position, and am happy to do so again, I am interested to see if any lifers can actually answer their own question. They can certainly talk the talk, but can they walk the walk? I doubt it.

    So lifers, why was the holocaust bad?

    This is not a flaimbait thread. I genuinely believe lifers cannot explain why it was such a horrendously terrible and immoral event in human history. This is a pertinent question because it goes the core of the ethics debate at the center of the abortion issue - and is a topic I believe lifers do not wish to engage in for the obvious reason they cannot win it. I am happy to explain, once again, why one can say abortion is fine but killing Jews on mass, amongst other non-fetus humans, is not - however I would request that if a lifer wishes me to reiterate my reasoning they make the genuine attempt at explaining why it is wrong themselves beforehand.
     
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    Thou shalt not kill.
     
  3. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    So you can't kill anyone? Why is that?
     
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    God said so.
     
  5. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    So what? Why does it matter if god said it?
     
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    I agree. If one is "not so bad", the other was "not so bad" either.
     
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    Where does it say that?
     
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    Are you trying to minimize the Fetocaust?
     
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    This goes down a road towards total moral anarchy. If you don't care what God says, then obviously you are free to do whatever you like, including genocide and abortion.
     
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    Or make up your own moral rules to suite whatever you want. Like equality, except some are more equal than others, and the unborn are not equal at all.
     
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    But God didn't say "Do not kill"....
     
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    So we are back to religious coercion, Taliban style.
     
  13. MegadethFan

    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    What do you mean?
     
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    Why is that?

    Why is that?
     
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    Do you not believe in morality?
     
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    He said he didnt want to be baited, yet he is baiting you. Dont fall for the con.
    Murdering the unborn and running them through a blender as a matter of convenience is acceptable to them.
    No convincing that type of person otherwise.

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    How about personal responsiblity. Human style. Dont want a kid, dont get pregnant.
     
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    Except in wars and capitol punishment, right?
     
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    How am I baiting him? What a pathetic cop out.

    And why shouldn't it be?

    Nonsense. I used to be pro-life - I was proven wrong.

    How about explaining why abortion is wrong? You can't can you?
     
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    IF you dont see how its wrong. I cant help you. Your defect is all your own.
     
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    MegadethFan Well-Known Member

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    Lol I knew it - you can't prove me wrong. Pathetic. Run along then
     
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    Lifers are all the same - can't front up to defend themselves, just whine and cry and think that's all they need. They're dead wrong, pun intended
     
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    Cant? Sure I can. Wont even try becasue you will not be swayed no matter what is said to you. Keep baiting. After you said you didnt want to be baited.

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    Aww, now you are just going to spin out of control. Hahahahahahaha, too bad your mother didnt feel the same way when she found out she was pregnant with you.
    Maybe Hetfield should have killed Mustain instead of just kicking him out of Metallica. Then there would not have been Megadeth. Think about it.
     
  23. MegadethFan

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    Exactly, you can't. You feign that you can but we all know you lifers are completely deluded and have not one argument to kiddy your ridiculously stupid claims

    Does it make you upset that women kill their fetuses? Lol yeah you've got a lot to laugh about
     
  24. CRUE CAB

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    Killing fetuses is a good thing, blah blah blah blah.
    Come up with a new take on the debate. Killing for ease is wrong, dont see that. Cant help you. Wont even try, you are not worth it.
     
  25. MegadethFan

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    I never said. I did day it was acceptable.

    Bahaha yeah you're really going to change the highly popular abortion laws with that kind of argument! Haha so funny - you're sooo right you can't actually tell anyone why! LMAO
     

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