A soul after death is impossible.

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    How can Christians (and other religions with an afterlife) pretend their stories somehow make sense in the realm of physics?

    How exactly is a soul supposed to survive outside of the body? It's just a bunch of electrons that required a brain to make sense of anything and an entire body to generate. Once the body dies there is nothing to power that energy and nothing to interpret that energy. It just goes poof. The energy disperses into anything that consumes it. Everything that we were disappears and there is nothing in physics that can explain how it would happen otherwise.

    Why even pretend that souls after death make any sense in science?


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    One of the main factors of religion is that it exists outside of the realm of science and reality. It does not need evidence, which is why it can not be proven or disproven using science.
     
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    I'm picking this up from the same thread over at F4P....

    Ah, I have it straight now. It was quantum mechanics, but matter not energy. I had not visited the subject in several weeks and could not clearly remember. Quantum mechanics show us things can be in two places at the same time, and alternate making matter there and not there.

    This is related and could be helpful for anyone reading this to watch.

    [video=youtube;dvYYYlgVAao]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvYYYlgVAao[/video]
     
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    The obvious problem here is that the OP has chosen to define a soul as the operation of the brain (the synapse firing and biochemicals), while no one who believes in the eternal soul defines it in those terms. What the OP is describing is what most people would call consciousness, not the soul. There are many forms of energy, of which electricity is but one. And many forms of energy cannot or have not been detected. Just because we haven't invented a machine yet to measure a certain form of energy does not mean that that energy doesn't or cannot exist.
     
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    There you go thinking too hard with your Human brain about things on this Earth. Your assumption is that we know everything about physics and what is or is not possible.
     
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    Interesting video.
     
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    , WHEN YOU'RE DEAD The Brain stops , KAPUT - FINISH - end of story .

    imo - the god + afterlife concept serves as a crutch or like diazapam - a tranquilizer and escape from some of life's futility. We're born ' we live - we die . - so we delude and invent reasons for our existence.

    Make the best of this life , as the saying goes - WHEN ITS GONE - ITS GONE.


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    Strange, is it not? that of the myriads who
    Before us pass'd the door of Darkness through,
    Not one returns to tell us of the Road,
    Which to discover we must travel too

    Oh, threats of Hell and Hopes of Paradise!
    One thing at least is certain--This Life flies;
    One thing is certain and the rest is Lies;
    The Flower that once has blown for ever dies

    (Omar K )


    Glory be to our good Lord Dionysus .


    beerglasstall.gif cheers
     
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    I very much doubt any of it makes a scrap of difference to the unknown billions members of our species who've lived and died since the year dot.


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    Sure it matters. Your entire thought process just may be completely wrong.
     
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    God? Soul? Never say never - you could be wrong.
     
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    Guess it depends on how old ya are...
    :tombstone:
    Belief in God found in decline
    April 18,`12 (UPI) -- Belief in God is declining gradually worldwide, with faith highest among older people, a report released by the University of Chicago Wednesday found.
    See also:

    Belief In God Grows As Mortality Nears
    Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - Belief in God is highest among older people and increases with age, perhaps due to the growing realization that death is coming closer, University of Chicago researchers said on Wednesday.
     

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