"abortion addict" woman got 15 abortions

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  1. Anders Hoveland

    Anders Hoveland Banned

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    This woman got 15 abortions. At what point does it become just plain irresponsibility?
    This woman recklessly brought 15 little human lives into existence and then snuffed them out. Is this what you pro-choicers call "choice" ?!?
     
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    I am surprised that she was able to conceive children after that.

    And obviously it was a choice. Not the best choice, by a freakin' long shot, but a choice. If her and her husband had such problems that she rebelled by repeatedly having abortions, she should have just left. Chick has serious issues and a load of baggage.
     
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    There are plenty of pro-choicers in this forum who believe a woman should be able to get 100 abortions, if she chooses.

    There are many women who use abortion as just another form of birth control.
    Why take contraceptive precautions seriously? If anything goes wrong the woman can always just abort.


    another related thread:
    women who get abortions over and over again
     
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    No, 1000. That's the limit. After 25 you get a Member's Only Discount Card.

    Because it's an option. I don't think you're going to find too many pro-choicers who will tell you that 15 abortions for one woman is a good thing or find any who disagree that this woman appears to be a bit unstable from the limited amount of information we have here. Spiting your spouse is a stupid reason to have any medical procedures done. This woman was not even using abortion as birth control, she was using it as a weapon to strike at her husband. I can't recall seeing any pro-choice folks arguing in favor of abortion as a means to get even with someone.

    But it's still her right to make that choice for herself, no matter how wrongheaded her reasons might be.
     
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    Did you even read the article (I know it's the Daily Mail but that was your choice)?

    This seems to be about her mental health and relationship issues as much as anything else. I think there is a valid question about her healthcare and whether the pattern was recognised by the medical professionals involved and the underlying reasons looked in to but I can't help thinking the taboo of abortion and the efforts to distant it from the rest of the US healthcare system would actually reduce the chance of that happening.

    Ultimately this certainly wasn't a good situation but nor is it the simple one you'd like to make it out to be to support your side of the simplistic abortion "debate" that this only goes to show has no relationship to the complexities of the real world.
     
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    I think we've found a new hero !!

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    I would hope that all pro choicers feel that way, otherwise they are not pro choice.
     
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    Why do you think it's any of your business whether a woman has one or 15 abortions?
     
  9. Anders Hoveland

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    Do you believe we should protect those who cannot protect themselves?

    I will leave you with a little quote...
    "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere."
    — Martin Luther King, Jr.
     
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    Cady Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I believe you are advocating laws to render women unable to protect themselves.

    Works for me.
     
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    Daily Mail or Daily Fail as it is better known has been forced on numerous occasions to issue apologies and retractions due to its twisting of stories to suit .. however let us assume that the story is correct, did you not even notice WHY she had those abortions, she was subject to a controlling husband who DID NOT WANT children.

    Irene Vilar said she had the abortions not from poverty or fear but as an extraordinary act of rebellion against her 'controlling' husband who did not want children... A year later, she fell in love and married a 50-year-old Latin American literature professor, who she says was opposed to having children.
    She claims he bragged that his relationships never lasted more than five years and told that having children killed sexual desire


    Seems to me she was subjected to the whims of a control freak.
     
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    the excuses women use :no:
     
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    Why are you off topic? This thread was about ONE woman, not women. Don't you know that? You started the thread...

    And women do NOT need "excuses" to get abotions........so your sad little head shaker is pretty funny :)
     
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    No surprises from you then, always, always it's about blaming and controlling women . .typical really.

    Oh by the way, nice bit of post mining (or cherry picking), no reasonable response to the rest I notice, but there again no reasonable response even to the bit you cherry picked either.
     
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    You are indeed correct. Having multiple repeat abortions results in a high risk that the woman will become unable to become pregnant again.
    Every time there is an abortion, with the curette scraping off the lining of the uterus where the placenta was attached, it results in scar tissue. The next embryo to come along cannot implant itself in the same place again. When a woman has had four or five abortions, eventually so much of the inner uterine surface is covered in scar tissue that it becomes hard for another embryo to find any suitable surface to attach. Abortion really can ravage a woman's insides.
     
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    As does pregnancy......
     
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    So you never even bothered to actually read the article where she explains her addiction?

    /thread fail
     
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    Preventing women from having abortions would be injustice.
     
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    And yet she now has two children with her second husband.

    Ignorance as to how the uterus actually works is apparent. The uterus sheds it's lining every month during menstruation. Unless she waited until the 2nd trimester there would not have been any need for a D&C. By the sounds of it all of them were 1st trimester without any curettage performed and the lining would naturally replace itself as soon as the pregnancy was terminated.
     
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    I call it sparing humanity the consequences of 15 children brought up in a disfunctional environment.
     
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    Why was this dead and buried thread resurrected?

    And if one abortion is okay, why not 15?
     
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    The comment of attempted suicides confirms she is psychologically disturbed. In addition, since she is an author I question the truthfulness as obviously she is seeking fame and shock value. People lie to do so.

    Getting pregnant to tell her husband and then abort to retaliate against him because he was a "controller" obviously is a lie in that obviously he wasn't controlling her at all, she was who was in control. A man wanting children doesn't make him a control freak. A woman repeatedly getting pregnant and then abortion to openly retaliate and upset her husband is the control freak since she could have just left him. The suicides combined with her stated reasons confirms she is a severely psychologically disturbed person.

    But, again, I think she's lying.

    I don't see how this is particularly relevant to the abortion debate, along the lines of an anti-gunner pointing to a gun crime and declaring this proves all guns must be outlawed.
     
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    It was resurrected by someone who has lost every argument so far and who also mistakenly thought the OP had something to do with abortion when it was really a mental health issue .
     

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