Alan Dershowitz: "Derek Chauvin Conviction Should Be Reversed on Appeal"

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  1. Thunderbolt

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    he has very much become a Trump lawyer, would not call him liberal

    that said, I in no way support what Maxine did, she was in the wrong

    guess we have to wait to see if the jury heard any of it as they were sequestered, so this may be a non issue
     
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    I'm sure they will find any way possible to get this overturned. Too bad that some innocent people spend years and decades in prison because nobody would take a second look at their convictions.

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    I'm not sure why you think he's not in Trump's corner.

    Former Trump lawyer Alan Dershowitz is advising MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell in Dominion defamation suit, says his role is 'extremely limited'

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/16/ex-...ng-mypillow-ceo-lindell-in-dominion-suit.html
     
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    Anyone can file an appeal and this is not just any case. How many of those people had a city pay the family of a "victim" $27 million during the jury selection? How many had a Preisdent and other national leaders declare their guilt? Then there are some technical issues like not granting a use immunity to the other person in the car. The judge not moving the trial and not sequestering the jury.

    Tell me do you believe justice should be impartial and blind or we should have mob justice?
     
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    "Liberal" lawyer? :roflol:

    Dershowitz (in recent years) has become a RW Shill.

    And, he is completely dreaming if he thinks this conviction is going to get overturned on appeal.

    Also, the title of your linked article (which is required be copypasted verbatim (with no editorializing)) makes no mention of "Liberal Lawyer".

    Here is the actual title:

    Dershowitz: Derek Chauvin Conviction Should Be Reversed on Appeal
     
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    Obviously, any reference to Dershowitz as a "Liberal" is a horrifically misguided characterization.
    Dershowitz is a RW Shill.

    At this point, Dershowitz has been reduced to an Irrelevant, Senile, 82-Year-Old Man (with no filter) seeking any media attention that he can.
     
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    Certainly not, least Democrat-run cities burn.
     
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    Perhaps Alan should lead the appeal. I'm sure Chauvin will NOT use the pathetic excuse for a lawyer he had for this trial. So, Alan, money where your mouth is...
     
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    It should be, dems tainted this trial from the beginning. The jury was clearly coerced.
     
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    It will certainly be appealed. It may get reduced to manslaughter. It will probably take nearly a decade.
     
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    The jury was NOT sequestered.

    LINK: Derek Chauvin trial: Judge refuses to sequester jury in George Floyd murder case | Fox News

    And if you don't like Fox News then do your own search. There are plenty of articles out there about it.
     
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    Heed, please, too many times Dershowitz has proven his opinion is essentially in legal outlier territory.

    And, someone needs to ask Dershowitz the question, with all the national coverage, how could it be better?

    I do, feel, however, defense will argue on appeal that the jury should have been sequestered, but, I don't think that is going to change anything, because...

    How could the defense have done a better job, for they had ample opportunity to, and attempted to exploit every possibility to improve Chauvin's chances, but nothing negates the fact that Chauvin refused to provide CPR, which it was obvious that would have been the correct thing to do, when the other officer said there was no pulse, and that he continued to keep his knee on Floyd's neck for 3 or 4 minutes AFTER he had no pulse?

    There is no way in hell there is going to be a 'win on appeal', but for that one unescapable fact.

    Defense might get the top murder charge dropped, but one or two will remain and he will go to jail.

    Given the national attention, the overall sense of the thing, I will venture a guess that the appellate court will decide they have plenty of facts before them that the verdict was just and that they will be in no mood to overturn their verdict and force a retrial. They're just not going to want to put the nation through it again.

    There is a thing called justice, and toss in politics, and you got a thing called, you're not gonna win this one, baby.
     
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    I can get behind Chauvin being held accountable for his actions for a decade. Sounds good.
     
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    You can be involved with a NON-Liberal and still be Liberal. Not everyone is a blind mindless hack who can't think for themselves.
     
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    I heard it was, if that is true that the defense requested it and it was denied, it will help the appeal

    makes me so mad when politicians do these kinda things, left or right... Maxine should have stayed out of it
     
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    It will not change because...

    cities will burn.
     
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    If the jury had been sequestered I probably would have been fine with the verdict. As it stands, with everything combined, (Waters statement, protestors outside the courthouse even during the jury selection and a few other factors) there is simply too many reasons to believe that this was not a fair verdict.
     
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    Is what she did any less of what Trump did?
     
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    Should have been a change of venue and jury should have been sequestered.

    Chauvin was negligent, stupid and should have been found guilty of manslaughter. I do not see murder there but who cares?
     
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    Any verdict other than murder would plunge America into chaos.

    I know it, you know it.

    Everyone knows it.
     
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    What they are talking about there is after the defense and prosecution rested their cases and made closing arguments. Which happened on Monday 19. Maxine's comment was on Saturday the 17th.
     
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    They want chaos anyway. It is a basic political strategy of the libocrats.
     
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    true ... only Trump supporters ...
     

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