Alan Dershowitz: Drop George Zimmerman’s murder charge

No marks on Zimmerman's hands? How do you know this?

What we do know is that there was a 1/4" x 1/8" abrasion on Martin's left ring finger below the knuckle. That's it. So if unmarked hands are the criteria, Trayvon is innocent.

 

How can you completely contradict yourself and think people are going to take you seriously...

 

That is illogical.

Why don't you explain why Zimmerman had a right to stand his ground and Trayvon did not. You want to skip over everything that happened up until Zimmerman shot Trayvon. Ignore the fact that Trayvon ran away from Zimmerman. Ignore the fact that Trayvon knew he was being followed and thought he had gotten away. Put yourself in Trayvon's shoes and tell me what he was supposed to do. Run away again?

 

Look at the autopsy report. Is the abrasion indicative of giving a beating?


Now tell me exactly how you know for a fact that Zimmerman's hands were unmarked.

 

Since Trayvon was already at his house at one point and ended up at the other end of the complex where Zimmerman was a couple of minutes later, what do you think that means?

 

What do you expect to see?? It does not take much to break a nose and give someone two black eyes.. Martin hit the softest parts of Zimmermans face. I would have to look around, but I swear I saw pictures the medics took of Z's hands and they were unmarked. The same time they took pictures of his head, they took pictures of his hands. I could be wrong, but I swear I saw that posted somewhere.

Either way, you just completely contradicted yourself.. but lets just forget about that right?

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/05/17/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-blotter-idUS378682428320120517

 

While you're at it, find a picture of those black eyes we keep hearing about.

 

Here we go.. found the picture..

http://baynews9.com/content/dam/news/images/2012/05/zimmerman-hands-0517.JPG

Do you see any evidence he hit Martin?

 

Yes it does.

http://www.politicalforum.com/current-events/248492-deedees-troubling-testimony-prosecution.html

 

It has been reported by several sources.. you can find them and dispute them if you wish.

 

Here we go with the emotional rhetoric. Lets just jump right to the end result of every incident and convict people on that.. oh.. that officers shot that guy.. its murder.. lets just leave out the rest of the story...

 

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0700-0799/0776/0776.html

Zimmerman loses on the reasonable and necessary requirements.

No one can logically say that Zimmerman could not escape. Because it is known that he provoked the encounter, he had an obligation to attempt to escape.

 

Depends, there are cases out there where someone entering your home late at night is considered reasonable, without even being assaulted by that person. So, unless Zimmerman had a crystal ball and knew he was going to survive the assault, how would he know his actions were not reasonable? There have been numerous people who have been beaten to death.

How did he provolke the encounter, please explain so I can pick it apart.

 

It's a shame Zimmerman was hardly injured, even walking around immediately afterward. No apparent pain, swelling. A couple of very minor cuts on his head that stopped bleeding on their own.

First, you have Trayvon running and Zimmerman going after him. That's kind of a biggie.

 

Zimmerman admits to following him but losing sight of him. By that time Trayvon was already home by Dee Dee's testimony but ended up where Zimmerman was a couple of minutes later.

 

This fact proves TM was the clearly aggressor in this incident.

If he had not doubled back, TM would be alive today,

This kid was not very smart.

 

You expect Zimmerman to wait until he is beaten to the point where he can barely defend himself to fire the shot? What kind of logic is this?? If im getting my ass beat, I should wait until what to shoot the guy? Maybe we should re-write the laws.. Unless you have a broken jaw, nose and at least one broken eye socket, you can not shoot someone.. And, you need to walk around with an X ray machine and a X ray tech to verify the injuries before you pull the gun.. I see a saturday night live comical fight seen starting here..

I dont have either doing anything... you are the one making up these scenarious. Im curious as to what you have them doing.

 

Forgive me, but the above opinion seems enormously uninformed. Deshowitz, on the other hand, is a bit informed

The threshold is "reasonable". What you call "an obligation to attempt to escape" is also better known throughout the legal land as the "duty to retreat".

When on the ground, with another standing over you beating you, where do you "retreat" to ? Convenient gopher hole maybe ? Where do you get this stuff ? Thanks.

 

It does not make him an aggressor. When your adrenalin is popping you can get confused. He might have gotten lost since he hadn't been there that many times before.

 

If I had walked 2-3 miles to the store, I would say I was "by my house" once I got on my street. I know it's more convenient to make it sound like Trayvon was on his front porch, but that is not logical.

 

Why is that a "shame". Would a fractured skull, maybe a little permanent brain damage, make you feel better ?

Its very legal. Zimmerman was also waiting for the cops that he called. The same cops that Martin did not call. I can't believe some are making these same pathetic arguments over and over.