Alec Baldwin kills one,inures another with Prop Gun on set.

Yep, you called it!

 

What on earth does this have to do with Trump???

why make everything about Trump?? Time to move on.......

 

TDS is real and there's no known cure.

 

I would say my comments reflect a lot more on the media.

 

Well lets think about it: Would a reasonable person take an object they knew to be a live firearm someone has told them is loaded with blanks and not check it themselves first before pointing it at a person and pulling the trigger, on a set that had had 2 live fire mishaps already? Would a reasonable person open the cylinder, push the unloading rod and personally inspect each cartridge for the hole in them that is the telltale for a blank?
It seems likely a reasonable person would.

 

You are presuming that actors know a little bit about guns. Many who think they know all about guns have shot themselves and others while cleaning their guns

 

Yeah so Baldwin has been on enough sets with guns and has received basic familiarity training.
Not to mention: A reasonable person does not take in hand a deadly instrument they know nothing of and point and shoot it at someone on the idea that its "safe" because some assistant told them it was when two other incidents have happened on that set within like a week causing the crew to walk out.
You know there have been boom boom incidents. You know you're too stupid to know what you're doing. You know the AD is also stupid, as they are the one handing "cold guns" to people and live bullets are coming out. So you KNOW you need to have someone check. There is a person who is the armorer. You KNOW this person is certified to know what they're doing. Do you have this person check for you before you go a blasting?
Yes, you do, because if you KNOW you don't know **** about the object you KNOW you shouldn't be ****ing with it.

 

The armorer is the person who said that the gun was cold

 

No, that would be the assistant director who handed it to him. The armorer did not hand him the firearm. She was elsewhere on set and would've had to have been sought out.
The same assistant director who handed the other two live loaded guns and said "cold guns" some few days before which caused the walk out of the majority of the crew.
Guy has 2 oopsies on his record in a few days: On what planet do you trust him when he says its cold? Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me. Fool me 3 times and you might expect I know and don't care.

 

Yes you're right that the AD shouted it was a cold gun. The armorer had set up three guns on a table ready to be used on set. One of the guns was picked up by the AD and given to Baldwin. So one question is who loaded the gun and was it done after the guns were laid on the table ie did someone use the gun with live rounds for shooting practice after it was laid on the table by the armorer

 

To illustrate the GLARING hypocrisy of oppressive illiberals.

 

.......then why not start ta thread to the same effect and discuss it as a separate topic.??

 

Because all threads on PF stay on topic? I was just trying to illustrate an illustration - that there is glaring hypocrisy out there.

OK back on topic!

 

If the armorer swears she inspected the guns carefully prior to putting them in the basket loaded only with blanks that leaves the AD vulnerable to charges since he has admitted to handing the prop gun to Baldwin without first checking it to see that it actually was a cold gun loaded with blanks only. Baldwin was an actor first and therefore is primary duty was not to ensure the safety of the set.

 

We all knew it would come down to this sooner or later.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2021...-gave-alec-baldwin-loaded-gun-on-set-of-rust/

The Fresh Prince Of Bel-Air Actress Janet Hubert Goes Full Blue Anon, Speculates “Trumpers” Gave Alec Baldwin Loaded Gun On Set Of Rust

 

Why would anyone expect the delusions of the far left to be any more accurate and fact based than those of the far right , 'stolen election' brigade? Both are as bad as each other.

 

You may want to clarify your "live" loaded guns. Because I take "live" loads to be rounds with projectiles. My understanding is the mishaps on set before that were accidental discharge with "hot" loads, which are blanks, mind you that is still bad that the stunt man was handed a gun and was told it was cold but had blanks in it, it is not quite a bad as actual live rounds. Also, per the asst director and the armorer's releases the gun went from the armorer to the ad to Baldwin. The armorer did check to make sure there were dummies (not blanks) in the gun when she handed it to the ad. However in the asst directors comment he says he doesn't remember checking every round, just 4 of them.

That is alright, Trump got to the speculation first...
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/t...grapher-halyna-hutchins/ar-AAQmRgY?li=BBnbfcL

 

They can’t move on from Trump. They have let him go so deep inside their heads that it will take an exorcism

 

yep, seems odd, like someone out to get Baldwin

 

that it is, some hate Baldwin to no end, all because he made fun of Trump on SNL

 

That would be a question to ask to charge that person as well with a crime, but it would not exculpate either the AD or Baldwin.

Apparently the AD admits he didn't check the gun. And the Armorer's statement is that she opened the cylinder to show the rounds, but.... blanks and lives look the same in the cylinder, you'd need to inspect each round for the hole that tell tales a blank.
So they're all ****ed.

 

Its perfectly clear: days before the same ad had handed a "cold gun" to someone that was in fact loaded with live rounds. Twice.
Same guy hands you a gun a says "cold gun." He's ****ed up twice now. Do you want to be number 3 or do you open the ****ing cylinder and push the extractor to check the five or six rounds yourself?

The armorer opened the cylinder only by her statement. To find blanks you need to extract them and look for the hole..... She's ****ed. AD didn't check for himself each round and even admits he KNEW then he didn't check them all and DID IT ANYWAY: He's ****ed. AB: didn't check for himself either, he's ****ed.

Each of those persons has committed a negligent act that should bear criminal liability.

 

There were blanks, not live rounds. There was also a prop person that shot herself in her foot with a blank. It is hard to find an article that is not behind a paywall. And to correct the next statement, "Cold" guns are not supposed to have any type of ammunition that can create an explosion, hence "Cold". So the rounds that were supposed to be in the gun that was handed to Baldwin was supposed to contain dummy rounds, not blanks, not live, but rounds that do nothing at all.

As to what happens, yeah, somebody done messed up, and messed up bad. The legal system will sort that out.

 

Baldwin? TDS? Huh?

Baldwin shot and killed someone. He pointed a loaded weapon at someone and pulled the trigger.

 

Ultimately that somone is the person who aimed and fired the weapon. They are responsible for the safe handling of a fire arm. Period.