America has 4% of the world's population, but 25% of the world's coronavirus cases

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    That fact is proof that Donald Trump's leadership is a failure

    I'd call it negligent genocide, myself.

    https://www.fox5ny.com/news/us-has-...-but-more-than-25-of-global-coronavirus-cases

    US has 4% of the world’s population, but more than 25% of global coronavirus cases

    The United States, which is home to approximately 4% of the world’s population, currently contains more than 25% of all the world’s coronavirus cases — a staggering disparity that health experts are warning could soon overwhelm the capacity of the U.S. health care system.

    According to data provided by Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center, there were 2,910,023 confirmed coronavirus cases in the U.S. out of 11,516,782 confirmed cases around the world as of July 6.



     
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    And of course we've run more tests than the rest of the world combined. And anyone trusts data from Russia China NK and Iran would buy land they never seen from a person they'd never met on the internet. And most of the third world sorry but we will never know how many cases there have been in Africa and our death toll is lower per capita than most of the rest of the developed world.
     
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    Thanks to democrat governors. Cuomo should be arrested and charged with murder.
     
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    Okay. So how about we forget the comparison data - how do you feel about 180,000 Americans dying from the virus? Unless, of course, you think that's fake news...
     
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    If that is relevent, then its also relevent that the bulk of our cases are in progressive leftist dominated urban centers, where "Trump is not my president."

    This just more 'Trump is a dictator because he isn't dictatoring enough' catch 22 BS.

    We'll see in Nov how many folks are (no longer) buying it ;)
     
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    You realize that the CDC came out and said that less than 10,000 cases have been death by coronavirus alone right?
     
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    Not happy, of course, but it beats the hell out of the three million they were prophesying back in March six ways from Sunday...

    We can Monday morning quarter back all day long but the fact of the matter is Trump pretty much followed what Fauci and the CDC said every step of the way. The trouble is that pretty much changed on a daily basis. Especially so between February and April.
     
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    That's rather old news about the US having so many deaths.

    More political than public health news, the entire Covid thing was planned in advance. Plandemic
     
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    Your premise wasn't the point of this OP, the point is that when America has 4% of the world's population, and 25% of the covid cases, that's proof of a failure of the President.

    Given that that was true months ago, and still is true, today, the point of the OP remains correct, that this is a failure on the part of the President to protect America. It's not just a failure, it's negligent genocide. Of course, there isn't anything in code called 'negligent genocide' as there is in code of 'negligent homicide', but the extrapolation does work, conceptually.
     
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    That makes no sense, whatsoever.
     
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    @Patricio Da Silva
    There is a specific forum for coronaviurs. A virus is not a "political Belief". I know you lefties think you are above the law, and that the rules don't apply to you, but please follow the rules like everyone else does.
    Thanks
     
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    The OP's point is that Trump has failed as a leader. The bit about the virus is only proof to that point, the OP isn't really about the virus, per se.

    And, maybe you're right --- but how can you equate 'posting to the wrong forum' with 'lefties being above the law'? If there were ever a textbook example of false equivalency, there it is.

    Moreover, as for being 'above the law', since you have opened that can of worms, the Republican National Convention was testament to the fact that Trump, et al, believe they are above the law, and much worse, per the words of one former republican, with whom any right thinking person would agree:

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    Think don't feel.
     
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    So the US does more testing and has more cases as a result. Sounds about right. What's the problem?
     
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    I would say that it's the proof of the failure of the US healthcare for profit model, not so much POTUS.

    The socialist Chinese built 10 hospitals quickly to treat their afflicted. The US brought a few Navy hospital ships to big port cities, and they were really just lip service.

    The failure of the US system was understandable, and compared to the Chinese response it was abysmal.

    Don't know about China for sure, but on the US end the event was planned, as shown in detail by Plandemic II
     
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    More BS. We didn't need to build more hospitals because we already had plenty. At no point did our system become swamped like Italy's did and a large percentage of our covid victims were already in a long term care facility such as a nursing home. In fact the one place we did set up extra beds for covid patients - NYC - both were gone a month later because they weren't needed. Again we have done more testing than the rest of the world almost combined and we are developing more and faster testing methods. More test equals more cases found. Our per capita mortality rates inspite of the abysmal incompetence of more than a few Democratic mayors, is no worse than middle of the road in the developed world.

    All in all given the fact that America has far more business travelers going far more places than almost anywhere else in the world the American system has done a damn spectacular job of limiting the death toll of this nasty bug. In fact had the Democrats resisted there urge to turn everything to political advantage we might well have lost fewer people than at present.
     
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    In retrospect, what you say is true. Our system was NOT overwhelmed.

    However, that our system was in imminent danger of being overwhelmed was the message repeated incessantly for the first few months, all as part of the Fauci Fear Factor.

    Nonetheless, the idea of public health for profit has not worked well for this country, except for those profiting from the system.

    Public Health is but lip service. It is not achieved by going to the ER when you're sick and that being the only time many see a doctor. That is not public health at all.
     
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    So? comparing apples to oranges. We are barely in the top 10 when it comes to deaths per million and my state's problems are largely related to my state's decisions, not Trumps. Sure Trump could have done better. Sure Governors could have done a lot better. In the end, individual decisions drive these numbers.
     
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    For a country that CLAIMS to be the greatest in the world, at almost everything, our performance in handling the pandemic is abysmal.
     
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    America has 4% of the world's population, but 25% of the world's coronavirus cases

    Obviously we have done more testing than the rest of the world. You can't have a case without a test.
     
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    Among the many lies Trump told during the convention were false claims about testing.

    RNC fact check: Trump speech filled with falsehoods
    President repeats familiar false claims on every major topic in acceptance speech

    https://www.rollcall.com/2020/08/28/rnc-fact-check-trump-speech-filled-with-falsehoods/
     
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    So you are suggesting that we did not test more than other countries? Apparently you agree with me since you went haywire on your response.
     
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    @Patricio Da Silva I don't think that D.Trump management of the crisis have been very effective, and it's an euphemism, however, clearly there is a bias in what you says : the article speak specifically of confirmed case, that mean people got a test. Using confirmed cases is clearly not an effective manner.
    You really think that rural India or Africa has any financial capacity to get a number of "confirmed" cases ? Brazil has been known for instance to have been harshly hit by the virus, however very few cases have been detected, simply because they were also very few tests.

    It's clear that Japan, South Korea and Taiwan have dealt with the pandemic in a more effective way, for Europe, it was a disaster, the question is : more or less a disaster than the USA ?
     
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    Trump & Co. Gleefully Twist CDC COVID Stat To Artificially Lessen Death Count
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/trump-white-house-campaign-covid-only-6-percent

    "On Monday, from behind the lectern in the White House briefing room, Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany doubled down on a weekend retweet from President Donald Trump on CDC COVID-19 data that was so dangerously misleading that Twitter has removed it from the platform.

    “The President was referring to new information from the CDC that shows that 94 percent of cases of fatalities were not just COVID alone, there was another comorbidity or extenuating matter, so he was just pointing to those numbers,” she said, adding: “He was highlighting new CDC information that came out that was worth noting.”
     

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