American Public Schools. Should they continue to be funded?

"In any respect" was not the polling choice offered. There are lots of respects I would like to see funding slashed and other areas in which I would gladly pay twice the property tax I do to fund

 

I'm truly happy for you. It sounds to me like the County Commissioners where you live have the teacher's union on a short leash! That's the way you have to keep them, or they'll tax you into finally just getting rid of your property. I had that very thing happen to me once in Central Texas, in Williamson County. The Liberty Hill School District literally ate me alive with big tax increases every stinking chance they had!

 

Economic growth - how many times will it take for this to sink in ??

 

I think our local real estate taxes are 80 cents per $100 or thereabouts. They raised them recently so I won't see the actual number until they are next due in December. I just get a "Pay Us This Amount, Sucker" bill locally. I have out of state property that allocates it differently. I am not sure how they calculate it percentage wise, but the break down is state real estate tax county real estate tax school tax, school excess (whatever the hell that is) School Bond, and then TIFF. That is generally the low to high price wise except School bond amount falls between county amount and school amount money wise.

 

Economic growth - how many times will it take for this to sink in ??

 

So IOW you favor allowing schools to very widely in quality with the schools in poorer neighborhoods educating poor kids with inferior education to that of wealthy kids in wealthy neighborhoods. How perfectly right wing of you!

 

Most are not schools, they're day care centers, and should charge parents for housing their dumb brats. Many of the assorted sexual deviants and sociopaths like to amuse themselves screwing with their heads, feeding them all kinds of nonsense and falsehoods, and many of their parents are perfectly okay with that. So no, they shouldn't be funded by taxpayers at all, not any more.

 

This is an example of socialism - complete control of education by the federal government. Idiotic with the pathetic results to prove it.

 

Locally here in my district the Feds only make up 10% of the school costs. I could easily cut 10% and lose them and their demands and strings that come with their money.

 

you could but your local school commission won't leave money on the table... not a chance.

 

Tell me, I'm legitimately curious as to your answer on this.

Is the public educator who feeds children Christian Middle East dogma that forever warps their minds and views to the point that they cannot function out in the real, secular world a "good educator" yet the one who feeds children science and technology "bad"?

I know what my answer would be, I'm curious as to yours.


(My answer is the one teaching Christian dogma should be arrested on the spot and fined)

 

Charter and private schools would love to receive 10% less than the gov provided per student stipend.

 

Can't function? Lol. That sure is a warped view of religion.

 

Religion is backwards and has no place in schools. At all.

 

I think many would, in a heartbeat, but there are other bludgeons that can be wielded against them for 'non-compliance'. State and local govts. should be looking into providing tax benefits and subsidies to home schoolers in a lot of jurisdictions as well.

 

You can ignore anybody who says something like that as a simpleton and a troll, not worth responding to.

 

Yip.

 

They should just naturally reflect the demographics of an area.

If a small town or inner city is inhabited mostly by lazy, poor, welfare-mooching democrats---then let the people have a school that reflects themselves. If they want their children to have more, THEY must put forth the effort to work more and create industry and then the funds for a better school.

On the other hand, if an area is inhabited mostly by hard working, thrifty and viable republicans---then their better schools will reflect that. I am not happy that our county takes the funds from our better area, and redistributes it to the poorer schools in the sticks. An abomination.

 

I asked you a question do you claim yiu did not receive a direct and personal benefit from the publicly funded education you received and that the taxpayers funded?[/QUOTE]

 

"Economic growth" (or the lack of it) has no direct connection whatever to how a public school system is funded by taxes on private property, and you haven't offered any proof whatever to back up your opaque one-liner response.

Truth: Economic growth (or the lack of it) occurs as a result of wars, "boom-times", recessions, and depressions (usually in cycles), and central bank manipulation: https://www.thebalance.com/us-gdp-by-year-3305543

A long time ago I learned a valuable lesson while posting in this forum -- provide at least some proof for broad, sweeping, unsubstantiated statements, or run the real risk of appearing to be someone's shill, and a clown....

."You expect personal benefit for taxes on your personal property?! How unsocial of you!"

 

That's ridiculous. Economic growth is the result in part of a well educated and trained work force. This is basic stuff.

 

It was a rhetorical question to the person claiming they should not have to pay property taxes because they have no children and don't use the oublic school system therefore receive ij benefit from it.

 

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And I've answered that my parents (and everyone in my parents' generation) paid property taxes to support public education -- therefore, I, as an attendee of public schools, received an "education" (such as it was....).

One last time, Mr. Blue, my gripe is not (NOT) with "education" per se. It is with how the entire private-property owning population of the United States is personally taxed to support government institutions from which it derives no actual, demonstrable personal benefit!

Synopsis:
1. Parents of children actually attending public schools should pay the most.
2. Parents who have had children in public schools in the past should pay next-most.
3. Property owners who have never had children in public schools (private schools, home-schooling, etc.) should pay less.
4. Property owners who have never even had children should not have their private property taxed for this purpose at all!

 

But WHO is taxed to death to pay for your precious public schools is the real issue -- not how well-educated the work force is....

But sure, using your debate skill-set, the Earth is flat, and it rides on the back of a gigantic, celestial turtle. See? I can make up vacuous, unproven "axioms" and volley them back at you, and call it "basic stuff", too.

If you don't have anything else, this will be my last return to you. You're wholly unfair, but you don't have to care... because you have the force and momentum of equally wholly unfair government taxing procedures to prop up your viewpoint, and your unjust, tyrannical taxation system for public schools....

 

Seeking funding for public schools, always garners the involvement of the federal government; this is how people tend to gain advantageous positions, through federal involvement. I use the homosexuals and the integrationists as two examples of this. With the homosexuals, even religiously oriented businesses and constitution, MUST include homosexuals if they want to remain viable and operable, and not have to spend their money on "legal" battles. Something similar takes place with the integrationists. They gain monopolistic influence through threatening lawsuits. This seems to be the modus operandi of Leftist movements, "If yo cannot win through public opinion, hit them where it counts, the pocketbook or wallet." Clearly, this is eating away at freedom and liberty. When I was growing up, I was taught that if you cannot get along with a person, do not keep their company. I guess those of Leftist thinking want to force themselves upon others, which causes more strife and contention and who loses? WE ALL LOSE! This is why I am ardently against government involvement in schooling, social interactions, religious institutions, and the like. I am not being a Dickhead, I am concerned with Freedom, Justice, Equality, and Independence, as I have stated in the past.
In closing, it is governmental involvement in education, especially public education, where those in government, especially those who have a penchant for despotic thinking, use other people's children as social experiments summarily causing confusion, rebellion, and psychological problems in the children. All of this leads to behavioral problems, loss of interest in learning, developmental issues, social problems, etc. Yes, even though I do not personally have children of my own, the impact of what culminates, is enough to cause me to have concern because I will be and am in the society where the broken children will cause harm to everyone, not just those who have children.