And a fiasco in New York - ranked voting

I can certainly see some wrinkles in the beginning, but, right now the issue is "the simplest way" has left many struggling somewhere in the middle of the two most prominent parties. Nothing will appease or appeal to everyone, of course.

 

I understand that. I suppose there are people who would choose candidates from both parties in their list. I have no clue whether it would impact anything, though.

 

It might shake things up if enough middle-of-the-roaders picked outside of D or R. Both sides would be forced to get their houses clean.

 

Nothing is going to clean those houses. They are about political power and everything else be damned.

 

It lets those that choose a 3rd party candidate still possibly have an impact on the outcome. The biggest complaint by people about 3rd party candidates is they are just throwing their vote away, which is just what the duopoly wants you to think.

I think a lot more people would vote 3rd party if they could put their "lesser of two evils" next on the ballot.

 

As I said the problems came during the subsequent RV counting, counting the RV system required why are you being so obtuse about? The more counting and ballot handling required the more complicated and confusing especially when some ballots get counted and some don't and which ones are winners and which ones aren't the more problems that can occur.

 

You keep saying this, but it simply is not true.

 

Fair point. Since we can't get rid of political parties, the next best scenario would be to have more of them. Back when I voted I used to throw my vote away.

 

Because is still isn't relevant to the error. Regardless of the voting system, they would feed the ballots in to a tabulation system to produce the overall results. The fact the coding within the tabulation system for producing those results is more complex doesn't make any difference. Removing test data prior to the real election would involve the same kind of simple steps and failing to do so would have the same kind of consequences.

There is no additional ballot handling. Each physical ballot still gets fed in to the system once and that records all of the choices in one go. All the complexity is within the tabulation system.

I mean, if you're proposing run-off elections instead of RCV, wouldn't that mean twice as much counting and ballot handling? If you want to reduce the scope for error (or corruption), I'm not sure how having two separate elections would be beneficial.

 

And another location tries and rejects...........

Ranked-Choice Voting Was a Bad Choice
Arlington County, Va., halts a system that left many voters confused.

Poor results aren’t always enough to halt a bad political experiment, so credit a Virginia county board for heeding the evidence on ranked-choice voting. This newfangled electoral system is all the rage among progressive reformers, but less beloved by voters. After trying it once, Arlington County did a fast reversal.

The county board this month decided to return to ordinary, plurality voting for its November general election. “This isn’t ‘no’ forever,” board vice chair Libby Garvey said at the meeting. But “there’s real ramifications we haven’t wrestled with.” The same board adopted ranked choice last December, and its first deployment was the county’s Democratic primary this June.


One cause for reflection might be the awkward results. With six people running, the two primary winners were Susan Cunningham and Maureen Coffey. They finished first and third in the initial ranked-choice round. But No. 2, Natalie Roy, was knocked out after five rounds of counting, as less-popular candidates were eliminated and their supporters were reshuffled to second, third or fourth favorites.....
https://www.wsj.com/articles/ranked...a-county-board-99264639?mod=opinion_lead_pos2