Android continues to own Apple - Now half a million activations a day

They would be hurting for cash if they didn't have their search engine business to make money for them. A business that, I might add, is not getting one ounce of benefit from Android.

 

If it costs you $5 a person to add one person viewing your ads who earns you maybe $.10 a month for the life of the phone in ad revenue, that's a major loss since he'll never even cover the cost.

Android is a cost for Google. It's cutting into their profits because it's not generating revenue. It hasn't helped their search or ad business at all.

 

If they were only making 10 cents a month you would be right.

At the moment.

uh huh

Ad revenue is not staying static btw...it is increasing.

 

Um...no.

Google is the default search engine on most Android phones. Even on the remainder, people often use it instead. Verizon bowed to public pressure and removed Bing because people complained about it so much.

 

Like I said... For you, having the last word is more important then the truth...

You're a winner... In your own mind.

 

What was the point of that response?

 

And on iOS phones.

 

I love my Droid.

 

A friend of mine gave me his, I *love* it. Makes me wonder how I went through life without a smart phone for so long. lol

As for Apple, they can go to hell. Why would someone want a closed source operating system? Makes me think of how useless iTunes is.....

 

Why not...

There isn't any difference for the end user.

When was the last time you sit down and gone through the source code of your OS? This is really the only difference between the two.

I think your beef is with the fact that they won't let you install whatever you want on it via their app store. This as nothing to do with being open or close source. It's a business decision. You can always JailBreak it and install whatever you want, just like on your Mac or Win PC.

As for iTunes, well it's your personal opinion... But since it is by far the most profitable media store on the web speaks for itself.

BTW if the Apple/Microsoft/etc... alliances goes through and they get their hand on Nortel IP and patent, Google will have some difficulty giving Android for free all the while having to pay multiple licensing fee to its competitors...

 

And it's done...

Courts OK Apple group's $4.5 billion Nortel patent buyout
by Stephen Lawson, IDG News Service

U.S. and Canadian courts have approved the sale of thousands of patents from bankrupt Nortel Networks to a consortium including Apple and Microsoft for about $4.5 billion.

Google isn't part of the consortium.

 

Because it limits what you can do with the phone.

Would you buy a car that you were only allowed to drive at exactly the speed limit or under at all times? Would fast food be more appealing if you only had a choice of one franchise?

Of course there is. You've seen evidence in this very thread of that.

No, that is not the only difference. You can do things in Android that you cant do in iOS. Flash sites, notifications, better multi-tasking, widgets, live wallpapers, drag and drop media....there are obvious differences between the OSs regardless of which one you like better.

The guy you responded to just gave you one of those differences...you have to use iTunes as a gatekeeper for iOS. It is not designed for drag and drop. Apple wants control over what you put on your device.

That wouldnt be a problem if they allowed you to install apps from somewhere other than the App Store.

You shouldnt have to. That is his point. You should not need to hack the phone to get the features you want out of it.

And btw - Jailbreaking is way overrated. A Jailbroken iPhone is NOT analogous to an Android phone. It is a vague approximation at best.

It speaks for Apple's ability to market a product. Everyone knows that. It is so obvious and such common knowledge that it has become a cliche.

I am sure Apple would be happy to know you are cheerleading their takover of the industry. Apple is now "the man".

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From what I understand, these patents affect hardware, not software. If so, how will this affect google or Android? This will affect vendors, but not Google itself. Also, it isnt "done" in Canada yet - http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20110706-710271.html -

Sony/Ericsson is immune to these patents btw...and they are an Android vendor. And HTC has a strategic alliance with Microsoft, one of the patent owners....so it is likely they will be immune as well.

 

No it doesn't. The apps you run on your Android phone are still "limited" by Android's base class library. For example, you can't shoot photos in any raw format on an Android phone, no matter how open source it is. Why? Because camera.pictureCallback raw always returns null data. On any Android phone. What is Google's response to this? They're considering just deprecating camera.pictureCallback raw, rather than fixing the problem.

Even if someone did develop a version of Android that solved this problem, you wouldn't be able to use it without rooting the device, replacing the boot loader, and flashing it with the new system software. Which is no more or less complex than jail breaking an iPhone to do things the phone doesn't normally allow.

In practical terms, the Android platform isn't much freer than the iOS platform. Developing for it still requires you to fit your app within the confines of the existing APIs or base class libraries that ship with the phone.

More like a car that always required you to obey traffic laws unless you manually put it in "break the law" mode.

Yeah, what a joy. Flash. </sarcasm>

iOS has had notifications for years, they just weren't as conveniently presented. That's not a valid complaint anymore.

I strongly, strongly disagree about that. The multitasking on Android sucks out loud. It's why task-killing applications are so popular on the market--because the out of the box task management is awful. This is something iOS does much, much better in practice.

I don't know anyone who actually keeps anything but a clock widget and battery widget running on their phone in the background. Because the battery life is usually a major problem on Android phones even without the widgets. Mine won't even get through a full day of use without a recharge.

You keep bringing this up, and it keeps being false every time. I wonder when you'll figure it out? Maybe I should make a video showing you how to do this?

Let me say that drag and drop really, really sucks compared to managed syncing. It's way less convenient. The few instances where you need to manually transfer a file do not come close to outweighing the convenience of plug-in syncing. This might be different if USB keychain drives weren't so cheap. This is one area where Android fails badly--the lack of any sort of centralized syncing mechanism. Being able to put it in a USB drive mode would be one thing, but not even offering an option for managed syncing is unacceptable.

There's really not a whole lot on cydia that justifies jailbreaking the phone. The App Store isn't that restrictive.

You have to hack Android to get some features you want too. Why do you think CyanogenMod and other alternatives exist? There would be absolutely no reason for aftermarket firmware if Android was actually as open and uncontrolled as you claim. Try removing HTC Sense from your HTC Android phone, for example. Want to delete that software that came with the phone that's just taking up space? Want to install an application on the phone's internal memory rather than the SD card? Tough luck, because you're running Android and Android lets the phone's manufacturer control your experience like that.

At least iOS doesn't come with a whole pile of crapware you can't delete.

No, but it does solve virtually every complaint you've stated about iOS.

 

Same difference. Would such a car be more appealing to you than a car which was in "allow to break the law" mode by default?

Who is better equipped to make the decision on how fast you should go...you or the car dealer?

You probably would not enjoy Flash anyway if Steve Jobs is forbidding it. And if you dont want it, well, obviously no one else will either, right?

It has a (*)(*)(*)(*)ty approximation of Android's notifications. Even iOS fans agree.

LOL

You are strongly strongly in the minority in your opinion. The reviews are universally in agreement. I have yet to see a single exception.

You should join the rest of us in 2011...task killers have not been in style on Android for a long time. I dont know a single person who uses them anymore.

Therefore what...having the option is a bad thing? LOL

That seems to be most of your argument; "I dont personally use those options, therefore it is ok to take them away from everyone else".

Because it is a valid argument. You keep saying drag and drop is on iOS, but I dont know a single iOS user who doesnt use iTunes, because they dont have a choice. Many of them dont like it.

So if it is possible at all, it is obviously not common knowledge and/or easy to do. I dont need a seven page tutorial to drag and drop stuff on an Android phone...I just connect it and go.

LOL

"I think it sucks, therefore no one else should be a ble to do it!"

I agree. I have seen the Cydia apps, and they are really (*)(*)(*)(*)ty compared to the native Android stuff.

Android users are not in Jail though...so they dont have to "jailbreak" to simply install apps from another source. There are several markets other than the official one and you can even install home grown apps if you want. No jailbreaking required.

To change the look and feel. They are not adding features. I didnt have to root to change my launcher. I didnt have to root to be able to use widgets or live wall papers. I dont have to root to install apps from somewhere other than the Android Market.

My sister has a Fascinate...she didnt like Touchwiz. We installed Launcher Pro. Goodbye touchwiz.

You can do the same thing with Sense. Removing it isnt even necessary.

We've had that since 2.2. Again, join us in 2011.

Not even close. Cydia widgets and wallpapers are crap compared to Android. I saw several of the more popular ones on my nephews' iTouches...underwhelming to say the least.

 

All of your rants amount to your personal preference, not some inherent superiority of Android vs iOS.

Also, if Nortel patents weren't important for google, they wouldn't have bid 900+ Millions before the Apple/Microsoft consortium...

 

Um...so? You say that as if it is relevant.

If they were so important to Google, why didnt google bid more?

Google might have been able to use them to attack Apple (since Apple DOES produce hardware). That might be why Google wanted them. But Google does not produce hardware. So Google itself is not vulnerable to them.

 

Go apple!!!

 

I purchased my DroidX the day it hit the market and haven't regretted the purchase once.

 

The DroidX2 is pretty sweet...Dual core processor and qHD display.

 

They're too big and use up so much energy... booo.

 

I guess it is a good thing that Android gives you a choice then, huh?


XPeria Mini - 3.5" screen

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LG Vortex - 3.2" Screen


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There are lots others. Found these via a casual google search.

 

You do realize that flash is capable of much more than just ads and videos, right?

A lot of android users don't care so much about their battery because if it dies, they can replace it instead of getting a new phone.

I absolutely hate the way you have to manage your files via syncing with iTunes. It is a worthless interface that has spawned multiple utilities to fix the mess it makes.

Of course, your argument is somewhat nullified by the fact that droid has managed syncing.

Unless you want options...

Not only can all of that be done, it can be done without iTunes.

No, they put it on your computer instead of your phone.

But android doesn't come with a bunch of crapware you can't delete either.

Except iTunes, which makes up about 90% of my dislike of the iPhone.

I'd not have a cell phone at all before I had an iPhone if it meant that I had to put iTunes on my computer.

 

Google doesn't have the liquidity to offer much more. Android doesn't make them any money.

 

LOL, Android has never been key to Google's income. They make their money with ads. Android just expands their ad base.