Anne Frank Center Blasts Tim Allen for ‘Deeply Offensive’ Nazi Germany Comment: ‘Have You Lost Your

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  1. vman12

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    How many liberal news sources and people in this very forum compare Trump to Hitler on a daily basis?
     
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    A month or so ago, I watched one hour show about Jewish producers, directors and actors under NAZI Germany.
    The show was about their previous accomplishments in Germany before the NAZI's, what happened to them in 30's Germany, and what they went on to do in the 40's-50's, 60's for those that made it out in time.
    I believe that show was on the Hitler cable channel.
    Many of these Jews in the film industry made it out. Those that remained were killed, mostly.
    The ones that made it to America had a hard time getting started, if at all.
    Many Jews and some non-Jews in the American film industry actually took up a collection for them that were struggling (which was most of them) to get a thing going and it provided them at least a living so they could have a roof over their head and could eat.
    Many finally made it (some did not) and those that did went on to make some cool and interesting movies.
    A lot of the "Art Nouveau" movies from the late 40's through the early 60's are now "cult classics".
    They used interesting lighting techniques and different from the norm angles of movie making.

    I believe that's what Tim was referring to.

    But, leave it to the libs to make it into something that it is not.
     
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    Probably the same amount that called Obama the same thing.
     
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    Tim is a rare commodity in the entertainment industry. And on top of all that he is also a real life HAM (Amateur Radio operator.)

     
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    Not even close but go ahead rewrite history if it makes you feel better.
     
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    Or stop being so partisan as to allow the left to call anyone/everyone a nazi or Hitler, but cry foul when someone from the right returns the favor.
     
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    Tim has a point. Many Liberals / Leftists are acting like Brownshirts. They are boycotting and physically attacking those that do not hold their political views.
     
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    But apparently the same people who have been complaining about the US looking like Nazi Germany because of Trump are refusing to see the connection Tim is making since he isn't waking up every morning locked in a gas chamber.

    Now that's progressive.
     
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    Ok I have it down in my "Book of things not to say" 30's Germany is going right between Grape Soda and thug?
     
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    Our public schools no longer accurately teach history. Unfortunately, comparisons have been made about a number of U.S. presidents by people who lack the analytical skills and historical facts to know better. If any of our presidents ever ordered the complete annihilation of a race of people, purely out of hatred, based on a belief of "no good race but the master race," then that would warrant a comparison.
     
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    My goodness, there is more projection in this thread than an adult book store..
     
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    Please link me to a source in the MSM or any groups out there comparing Obama to Hitler.
     
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    This article itself merely reinforces his claims.
     
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    A ton. Does that somehow make it ok?
     
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    No. I've pointedly remarked to people throwing out the Hitler comparisons that all they are doing is making light of an actual atrocity many times here.

    The point here is the grand hypocrisy. Where were these people when Blitzer and Matthews are on air throwing around Hitlerian comments?

    The only time they have a problem is when a conservative does it.
     
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    Hipocrasy it is and called out on it people should be, but not as a way to deflect. Too many political arguments end up in a circle of 'well they did it too'. It's an easy way to not acknowledge ones own sides failings by pointing out the others.
     
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    The only number of murdered humans that can be legitimately compared to Hitler is 60 million.
     
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    Someone send the Anne Frank Center these links:

    Don't compare Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. It belittles Hitler.

    Similarities between Trump and Hitler (in a pre-WWII context)

    Tired of the Hitler/Trump Comparisons

    Trump is the new Hitler

    Hittler's rise compared to Trump's


    After Likening Trump to Hitler, Journalists Upset They're Not Getting Called on for Questions


    I stopped after that point because hey - time for lunch. There's plenty more examples out there. But hey, if you don't believe me, then take the words of our finest member Andrew Jackson who said so himself:

     
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    Well, the issue isn't deflection at all. The issue is that after having so many Godwinian conversations coming from Liberal pundits, it's only NOW that the Anne Frank Center notices the Hitler comparisons - and ONLY from Tim Allen? Why alluvasudden did they start noticing this very second, and only when a conservative said it after a snowstorm of Hitlerian comparisons from the left?

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    I'd say partisan politics is the answer to your question. Also a lot of hipocrisy.

    Which, again, doesn't alter the base point of making Nazi comparisons being a bad idea.
     
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    Perhaps he could have said it better, but Allen was talking about the atmosphere of oppression conservatives face in the entertainment industry. I don't think he was comparing any single individual to Hitler, but more trying to convey living in oppression of thought and deed.

    While the comparison does not ring true compared to the targeted groups in Germany (obviously no intelligent person would make such a claim, or shouldn't), your average German during that time lived in such an oppressive environment. Did he compare his situation to that of a JEW in Nazi Germany? I don't recall.

    My take on his comments was that he was referring to a non-targeted citizen, but I could be wrong.

    This article merely proves his point though.
     
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    It sounds like we might compare being conservative in Hollywood to being liberal in a predominantly conservative area. In either case, you don't want to be too outspoken and are likely to be something of an outcast unless you can find a sympathetic social circle, and it could easily affect you economically. However, in Allen's case we're also talking about entertainment, where this kind of problem can be significantly worse.
     
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    Like I said in my first response to this thread, I believe he was making an outsized joke in response to the difficulties of being a conservative in the notoriously liberal Hollywood machine. I like him and his stuff personally.

    His quote was

    But realistically, whether your close to being accurate or not, their are much better comparisons then going Godwinn. It'll never get you good press.
     
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    This is very timely because Chelsea Handler tweeted something about Trumps "jeanetics." Ha ha.
     
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    The bias seems far worse on the left, quite frankly.

    When you look at the rioting and physical attacks on Trump supporters, yanking up yard signs, putting ads in Craigslist with a "no Trump supporters" clause, the huge list of hoaxed hate crimes that tried to implicate Trump supporters, and on and on.....you didn't see these things happen anywhere near this level either time Obama was elected.

    Honestly, there's no comparison between the two.
     
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