Anti-democratic Republicans still going after Americans VOTING

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  1. Natty Bumpo

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    Rightwing election lawyer Cleta Mitchell, a key ally of Trump as he pushed bogus claims of fraud to overturn Joe Biden’s 2020 win, is urging curbs on college student voting, same day voter registration and absentee voting.

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    Mitchell, who runs the Election Integrity Network at the pro-Trump Conservative Partnership Institute to which a Trump Pac donated $1m dollars, was sparked by recent comments Mitchell made to Republican donors...

    Long known for advocating stricter voting rules that are often premised on unsupported allegations of sizable voting fraud, Mitchell last month promoted new voting curbs on students in a talk to a group of wealthy donors to the Republican National Committee...

    “What are these college campus locations? What is this young people effort that they do? They basically put the polling place next to the student dorm so they just have to roll out of bed, vote, and go back to bed.”

    [https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...lection-lie-attacks-campus-voting/ar-AA1aSZJ3]
    Targeting Black Americans for disenfranchisement has long been a GOP stratagem, and adding younger, better-educated Americans to their hit list is only to be expected.
     
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    I couldn't figure out why your posted this, or what your complain was. Are you mad that some folks want to make sure that states follow their own election laws in regards to establishing residency?
     
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    It's typical of the low quality media articles, that present a characterization of the "facts", without actual details of what the real facts (or basic facts) are.

    I know that statement may be confusing, so let me try to give you an example.
    I say that one of my family members cooked a horrible meal for me and talked very disrespectfully. Is that a "fact", or personal opinion? I have told you nothing about what food it was or what they said.
    So you hear that statement and consider it a "fact", even though what you heard was an assessment, my assessment of what happened.
    And the thing about that is, it's impossible to catch me in the lie. Suppose you find another witness who was actually at that meal and can tell you what food there actually was and what was said. It still can't prove what I said was a "lie". Because I never actually gave you any basic facts in the first place, even though you naively assumed I did.

    Basic facts are not opinions but things that are definitively either true or not and can be proved true or false. They are not things open to differing interpretations or assessments. If you are given the basic facts, then you can form your own opinions about them.
     
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    The GOP is not scared of the Millennials - they are terrified of them. This coming generation has little time for the party that will not address gun violence and has taken away freedoms.
     
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    Targeting demographic groups for voter disenfranchisement when no evidence of vote fraud can be contrived is blatantly anti-democratic.

    Your pretending otherwise is foolish.
     
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    A logic loop fallacy. The law defines who can vote. Period. If you don't meet the definition of legal voter at the time of the election, no voter fraud needs to be shown to justify why you cannot vote. It's a ridiculous response.
     
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    Contrive whatever pretexts you can to impede Americans' right to vote if they are not of your approved demographics.

    Their right to vote under law will be secured and exercised, nonetheless.
     
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    Again, laughable. And sloganeering at its worst. If my demographic are legal voters, your only option that you're now advocating for are inclusion of illegal voters. funny that is what you're advocating for.
     
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    "States rights" is the phony justification given when States want to abuse their own citizens to achieve a goal. Ever heard of the Civil War?
     
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    And yet, you failed to address the issue noted. Why? Nothing to add except an existential boo hoo??
     
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    "Existential"? I did respond; you're just too busy abusing the English language to notice.
     
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    Funny. Of course you responded. Your response had nothing to do with the conversation, but you did respond. Noted.
     
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    Always remember the Inconvenient Truth: MSM = Fake News
     
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    How does being against curbs on voter registration, especially same day registration mean anyone is advocating the inclusion of illegal voters?

    Not to mention the calls to raise the voting age, or being against partisan gerrymandering.

    It’s obvious what’s going on here — y’all know the RP is becoming less and less competitive and are simply trying to justify policies to make voting more difficult or hold less power.

    The question is will it be enough to stop gen Y and Z as the silent generation and boomers retire.
     
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    The real issue is that Democrats know black voters are often too lazy to vote.

    This is not really so simple as actual "voter disenfranchisement".

    Anyone who actually wants to vote can still vote, without too much difficulty. But even creating some rather small mild barriers in an election, or even just taking away some of the convenience, can dramatically alter the election in some situations.
     
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    I suppose that's a question you should ask yourself. If the law doesn't support non resident registration or same day registration of non residents, you're asking for illegal voters to be registered and allowed to count in the election. And after you effectively undermine your own narrative, you launch into whataboutism not supported by any actual evidence. Gen Y and Z are all able to accomplish getting registered to vote. Legally. Why would you not already know that?
     
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    The only people saying non-citizens are voting here is you.
    I am speaking of registration for citizens only.

    Care to answer the question?
     
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    From the OP, Mitchell said: “What are these college campus locations? What is this young people effort that they do? They basically put the polling place next to the student dorm so they just have to roll out of bed, vote, and go back to bed.”

    So why was Mitchell complaining about voting being too easy on college campuses? It just sounded like she didn’t think 18-26 year old students should be able to vote unless it’s really inconvenient. What does that have to do with reasonable voting laws? Voting needs to be hard so that non retirees have to cut class, get a babysitter, or take a day off from work to do it. F that bullshit. You guys just want to cheat to win. Admit it. You cheat by making it so that only retired republicans can easily vote
     
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    Raising the voting age to 25 so that Trump Rs and radicalized perverted "evangelicals" can exercise their fascists proclivities is the last gasp of this dying political party and a defunct generation. The new generation of voters do actually vote and they will not vote for the Trump Party.

    Citizens are adults at 18......period.
     
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    If the Republican Party, dominated by older white males, could restore the original status of white males, disenfranchising everyone else, and then impose their authoritarian dominion over medicine, media, education (with a focus on book banning and curricula dictates,) science, private enterprise, wombs, etc., their vision of MAGA would be realized.
     
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    It would be MAGA heaven on earth!
     
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    Anti-democratic Republicans still going after Americans VOTING
    Why did you use the plural "republicans" introduce what a single person said?
     
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    Because as much as they complain about various Republicans "generalizing", they love to do so also. It just exemplifies the saying "two sides of the same coin".
     

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