Anti-Israel Restaurant Receives Funding from John Kerrys Wifes Foundation

Israel is a friend of nobody but Israel. Israelis have spied on you, stolen your military secrets and sold them on to your 'enemies', their prime minister has publicly mocked you for being an easily manipulated pushover and they continue to fleece your taxpayers of billions of dollars the Israelis have many times said they don't need. That, sir, is the epitome of betrayal. My friends don't stay friends for long if that's how they behave. But if you insist on nurturing those parasites don't let me stop you.

 

Israel can't seriously be this backstabbing and ungrateful.

must only be Likud.

 

Yes and rapists bring it on themselves by wearing provocative clothing and hey blacks bring it on themselves because they have attitude and gays who are flamboyant bring it on themselves for walking like Miss Jay and wait how about those damn samoans, they bring it on themselves refusing to wear underwear.

Good now that the blame is all settled can we get back to the actual thread and you save your illogical statements for the Vanguard.

 

Tokyo Rose tried a similar routine and it never worked. Your attempt to use this thread to engage in hateful comments designed to incite anger against Israelis is transparent, weak, and pointless. How about you and Ronstar take your act over to some hate site. The attempt to hijack the thread and insult Jews and Israel is par for the course but pointless.

 

Israel withdrew from Gaza years ago. The day it did it was attacked and the declaration of war by Hamas ws never ended contrary to what they said.

Israel withdrew from Lebanon and the Hezbollah did not disarm as they said they would and then in fact too advantage of the withdrawal
to send terrorists into Israel to kill innocent civilians,

The West Bank from which you want Israel to withdraw from is supposedly run by a leader who stood up in his assembly giving a standing ovation to his fellow party members chanting death to Israel.

This is a man who wrote his thesis denying the holocaust, has stated over and over again he will never recognize Israel unless it becomes a Muslim majority state and claims to be unified with Hamas who has an open charter to kill Jews worldwide not just Israeli Jews, for being Jewish,

Say now, if you have anything else to say about withdrawals understand this-first you need to actually find out what the situation on the ground is before you make erroneous statements and secondly you might want to understand that if we in Canada next door were sending terrorists into your country to blow it up and had a charter calling for the destruction of the US, you would be the first to whine and scream and ask the US government to protect you from US and blow us up so do me a favour, save that anti Israel act for a spit on Israel thread and save the advice. One John Kerry is sufficient although I appreciate you might be going out as John Kerry for Halloween.

Might I suggest Jimmy Hoffa or hey how about J.Edgar Hoover in his alter ego booooooooooo.

 

if you're suggesting that Israel has committed no crimes, stolen no land, built no illegal settlements, stripped no Palestinians of their Permanent Residency status, didn't kick tens of thousands of Palestinians out of Israel after the 1948 War, didn't destroy hundreds of mosques, then you sir are posting very dishonestly.

 

well, then stop complaining about the other side reclaiming their own land from which they were kicked out 2,000 ago. They never gave up on it, they never accepted their eviction from their land, it was still theirs even if original thieves and murderers sold it to other thieves and murderers. It was still stolen property and now at least part of it belongs to the descendants of the lawful owners. Human nature, as you said...works both ways, buddy.

 

There should have been no statehood period.

 

Given the technology and mode of life at the time, coupled with the fact that they were facing a crisis in their own land (the Zionist takeover), the events taking place in Europe were not on people's minds.

The mufti, as you said, was merely a nominal leader. He wasn't even popular in the Arab world. It is a Zionist myth that he was some sort of great leader of the Arabs, and that his alliance with the Nazis prove that the Arab world had sided with the axis.

http://books.google.com.lb/books?id...he European Jews were being wiped out&f=false

 

No, they definitely had given up on it. It's just that the antisemitism in Europe required them to look for a place that could guarantee their safety. It wasn't even their first choice.

 

I guess you have never heard of 'Next year in Jerusalem' Jewish saying. Look it up, you can Google, right? They never gave up.

 

That doesn't contradict what I said.

 

They had minimal interest, they pursued their own different political party ideals and joined the British forces occupying Palestine. Like any other people they had no need to do otherwise.

All kinds of people made friends with all sorts of bad people. In times of great crisis, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Why on earth wouldnt he be an enemy of the British and the Jews in Palestine? They did not come to Palestine to bring them independence or a vote or with peace and flowers - they came to take land.

LOL, and long before any of that the 'Israelis' had planned the takeover of Palestine which they saw as theirs by right of their own ethnicity rather than their living there.

 

The only place Israel ever withdrew from is Egypt, from that they got a peace treaty which lasts to this day, these other places Israel remains in control of the land, be it south, north or west.

Your presence in all these areas was and is never about security, it was and is about building more houses. The only reason you left gaza is because it was considered no longer worth the cost and would allow you political cover to keep the west bank.

Your whining about what your enemies say about is just so much childish excuse. Israelis are and have been quite capable of saying awful things about Palestinians and arabs.

Time for you to man up and get the hell out of places you have no need to be - you already have enough land.

 

LOL, of course they did, more of them went elsewhere. The phrase doesnt mean most jews wanted to be in Jerusalem next year. Moreover, giving up or not is irrelevant - they, the zionists, simply had no knowledge or experience or significant lineage of the land they sought.

Oh and it was never stolen property.

 

Man! Are you self righteous! This is rich coming from someone whose country tried to take over the world! There are only 12 countries that Britain didn't get its hands on. Why didn't you stay the hell at home and leave people alone?
Do you anything about the 1967 Arab-Israeli War? The ARABS were the AGGRESSORS and they believed that if they ganged up on Israel like the bullies they were, they could crush the Israelis. But the Israelis beat them in 6 days and in that time they did occupy land. When Britain fought a war, did they ever return land when they won? I thought not. Israel said that they would return land if the Arab nations signed peace agreements. They all refused except Egypt and Egypt got the Sinai back and yes, they have had ever since. The ones whining here are the stupid Arab nations who refused PEACE. They got what they deserved.
Check out Britain's role in the Middle East, and yes, you were there too. Hard to believe, but true.
Obama loathes Britain because he blames The British for torturing his father when Britain conquered Kenya(here we go again with the "empire" thing). Hence he returned Churchill's bust, didn't attend Margaret Thatcher's funeral and no help with the Falklands. He has no special relationship with Britain.

 

Pick up a history book sometime. They did not join the British forces occupying Palestine, they fought them. The British were 'OCCUPIERS" as you pointed out.

Especially when that enemy is bound and determined to exterminate one of your principle enemies and is engaged in total war with the other.

Much like the ottomans who ruled for a couple few centuries before the coming of the british? Oh wait, he wasn't an enemy of the ottomans.

I guess you failed to notice that I agreed he was required to deal with the Germans because he didn't have any other potential allies and without allies he was relegated to a fringe player.

Huh? Help me out here, what do you call somebody who frequently utilizes wholly disconnected responses to deflect direct responses to their initial statements?

 

I state your your exercise of words that engage in the smeer you do againstall of Israeli and its citizens by claiming it brought terrorism on itself is intellectually dishonest, illogical and does nothing but incite hatred and justify terorism.

I state your words are no better then those from others on this forum spreading anti semitic myths and canards.

Using your analogy and reasoning process it would also stand to be true that Palestinians deserve to suffer because they chose Hamas.

Israel has made decisions over the years that have exasperated conflicts and complicated issues.

Hamas has chosen to embrace violence and terrorism.

To smeer either people, Palestinian or Israeli is nonsensical.

As well don't try pull this self righteous device with me that I claimed something I did not by trying to make inferences I think Israel can not be criticized.

Save that device. Do not try claim you know what I believe or think.

It is illogical for you to try justify your dishonest intellectual exercise of smeering all Israelis for the policies you do not like from their governments over the years .

 

The Arabs weren't the aggressors.. The Israelis had planned the 1967 war since the 1950s because they wanted more land and water. Egypt was busy fighting in Yemen and Nasser had called for a conference with Israel about Shatt al Arab.

Israel attacked.

 

IOW you have nothing to substantiate your opinion other than your opinion.

He was an influential leader that got marginalized and his desperate fleeing to the Nazis for aid and comfort demonstrated to all that at least certain factions of the arab world were supportive of the Nazis.

Amazing how backing a loser generally is viewed unfavorably by opponents and allies alike.
This is of course AFTER the fact of his involvement with the NAZIs.

 

None of the above is untrue. Of course you are free to challenge any of the points I highlighted in my post.

 

Such is the case when trying to prove a negative. Do you have anything to offer?

Certain factions (can you list them?) were probably supportive of the Nazis, yes. So what? All over the world there were certain factions supportive of the Nazis. The reality is that this support for the Nazis in the Arab world was quite meager:

Actually, the attitude towards the Mufti clearly shows that Husseini was never that...impressive among Arab officials, hence the quote "This man has never gotten mixed up in any business without making things worse."

 

Goomba your suggestion Jews control Hollywood is a myth and it never fails in any discussion about Israel, we soon have contributors like you engaging in comments that smeer Jews with stereotypes.

Is it possible to discuss Israel without engaging in myths about Israelis or Jews? Is it?

Who are you kidding. You claim you never claimed Jews are trying to conquer the world. No just Hollywood right. Did you not suggest we control society through Hollywood? Stop beating around the bush. You believe that, you use the same reasoning about banks, the media, the Congress or would you tell me right now this influence on society is restricted. Once you stereotype Jews as controlling society, you really think you can distance yourself from the world control conspiracy myths? Really?

Oh but wait a Jew told you Jews control Hollywood so it must be true. If a Jew says something you agree with about other Jews, presto it must be true right? I mean come on he is a Jew right?

No it matters little who utters the idiotic myth if its idiotic. Their religion or perceived ethnicity is not the issue, the content of their words is.

The Hollywood Jew myth has been repudiated time and time again so you can repeat your article as much as you would like it does not change the fact that you advance a stereotype.

What you have done is to cherry pick Jewish names. The device is absurd. Oh look I found a Jew sounding name so that proves Jews control Hollywood.

Of course there have been Jewish producers, actors and directors. There have also been non Jewish ones and black ones.

Tell me in your analysis of Jew sounding names did you find out how many of those Jew sounding names are not actually Jews just Jew sounding names? Did you ascertain all those Jew sounding names are actually belonging to Jews, of course not.

You also engage in classic disinformation. Oh look I found 100 Jew sounding names so they must control Hollywood. Right. How many people in Hollywood are Jews and have non Jewish names. For that matter how many people are not Jewish. Did you check? Of course not.

When Hollywood as a film industry first started, it was one of the efw industries any minority not just Jews could enter because it was perceived as lower class and something low level people did. So not only Jews, but gays, blacks, poor Irish and Wasps, other minorities came to Hollywood. Did your stereotyping check to see who in Hollywood was black, gay, non Jewish? Of course not.

Two major movie studios, MGM and Warner Brothers, were started by Jewish immigrants.

That is where the stereotype originates. In fact the majority of Hollywood studios were not Jewish and certainly not Walt Disney studios as Walt Disney was a blatant and open anti-semite.

Only a fool today would try argue studios are owned leta lone controlled by Jews. In fact most These studios are owned by corporations most of whom have no religion and belong to global entities with offices in Japan or England or elsewhere and even if they have Jewish executives they also have executives and boards of directors whose members come from all religious backgrounds.

Go look. After you finish your Jew name selections go find out. The fact is the majority of the major actors and actresses in Hollywood are not Jewish and the majority of directs and producers best-known are not Jewish.

Hollywood is in fact a melting pot. It has Christians, Jews, atheists, Scientologists, a mix of all kinds of religious and other beliefs.

There have been many studies produced by non Jews that studied the ethnic and religious backgrounds of the major players in Hollywood and sorry to burst your bubble but the majority of people in Hollywood are not Jews and never were.

No I am not going to reproduce those articles. Go find them yourself the same way you found the one article that suits your fancy.

See as quick as you come up with a quote from your self serving article I can do the same, this one from:

http://fair.org/extra-online-articles/the-jewish-media-the-lie-that-wont-die/

"Today, the myth may be as widespread as ever--and no one is refuting it. Every type of far-right propaganda luridly revives the spectre of the "Jewish media." In a pamphlet and website entitled "Who Owns America?" the prolific neo-Nazi William Pierce, author of The Turner Diaries, tells us that the news and "entertainment media" are "Jew-controlled," which is why they push miscegenation, homosexuality and other race-polluting practices.

Meanwhile, the same spectre haunts the propaganda churned out by the Nation of Islam and other Afro-fascists--all of whom Pierce's readership would like to string up from the streetlamps. Every time Khalid Abdul Muhammad vents in public, he and his audience exult together in the fiction that the whole shebang is "Jew-controlled."

All such diatribe plays up your Eisners and your Sulzbergers--and plays down many other names: Jack Welch and Michael H. Jordan, CEOs, respectively, of GE (NBC) and Westinghouse (CBS); Rupert Murdoch (who owns 20th Century Fox); John Malone, CEO of TCI, the nation's largest cable company; maverick globalist Ted Turner; and many more. Also tuned out are such goyische giants as Hearst Communications, Times Mirror, the Chicago Tribune's empire, Reader's Digest Inc.--and the Shintoist directorship of Sony (which owns Columbia Studios and Tri-Star Pictures).

The far-right media "critique" also ignores the role of major shareholders: buccaneers like Warren Buffett (Disney's largest investor); cyberlord Bill Gates (who owns a big piece of Dreamworks and MSNBC); Gordon Crawford, who manages the media holdings for the secretive Capital Group (which owns a chunk of every major player).

 

Indeed, and several notable people-including the Israeli military-have conceded that the war was a deliberate act of provocation by Israel.

http://www.deepjournal.com/p/7/a/en/729.html

 

John Kerry who?

Is he an American comedian?

A part the usual Italian humor [which can be well more sarcastic that this, but allow me to be diplomatic here]; I guess that Mr. Kerry is so mindless that he has never noted this.