No, you are talking about someone, anyone just making a complaint and someone else losing their rights. Otherwise you wouldn't be asking for this, and would be content with the laws we already have...
You are talking about revoking rights, it is not a matter of seeking 'remedy' from the courts if the state is wrong. In this case the state must provide indisputable proof that such a revocation is just. You propose an even more cowardly form of gun grabbing, get some voodoo science scumbag to do the work...
It is the argument being presented by yourself. Therefore the burden of proof is on yourself to demonstrate that it is actually correct.
Pray tell why should anyone invest the time and effort that would be necessary to verify the argument being presented by yourself, when even yourself will not do such?
Such is not how the matter works. The one who presents the claim is tasked with supporting and defending the claim.
Women are safer without a gun: "So who is pushing the agenda that women need guns to prevent rape? Since 1980, the NRA has targeted women in an effort to combat declining handgun sales. They advertise and rely on the rape myth that women should be scared of strangers, and that only with a gun can a woman protect herself. We now know that these assumptions are simply not supported by fact. It is far more likely for an intimate acquaintance or family member to endanger a woman’s life than a stranger. In fact, just having access to a gun increases a woman’s risk of intimate partner violence by five times. Furthermore, research shows that “more than three times as many women are shot by their husbands or intimate partners than are killed by strangers’ guns, knives or other weapons combined.” So when women buy guns to protect themselves from strangers, they are often giving gun access to people who are more likely to hurt them. Furthermore, in the face of an attack, a victim of sexual violence is unlikely to have a firearm immediately available or be willing to use it against a partner, friend, or family member, even if that person assaults them." http://ocrcc.org/guns-rape-prevention-a-dangerous-myth/
The citation does not propose anything in the way of alternatives to firearms for personal defense against sexual assault. Pray tell why is that? What exactly is being stated as the best available course of protective action by the cited organization?
There are no magic bullets in life. "Prevention programs[edit] Several research based rape prevention programs have been tested and verified through scientific studies. The rape prevention programs that have the strongest empirical data in the research literature include the following: The Men's Program. The Men's Program, also known as the One in Four program, was written by John Foubert. Its focus is on increasing empathy toward rape survivors and motivating men to intervene as bystanders in sexual assault situations. Published data show that high risk men who saw The Men’s Program committed 40% fewer acts of sexually coercive behavior than those who didn’t. These treated men also committed acts of sexual coercion that were 8 times less severe than a control group.[25] Further research also shows that men who saw The Men’s Program reported more efficacy in intervening and greater willingness to help as a bystander after seeing the program.[26] Bring in the Bystander. Bring in the Bystander was written by Victoria Banyard. Its focus is on who bystanders are, when they have helped, and how to intervene as a bystander in risky situations. The program includes a brief empathy induction component and a pledge to intervene in the future. Several studies show strong evidence of favorable outcomes including increased bystander efficacy, increased willingness to intervene as a bystander, and decreased rape myth acceptance. (Banyard, Moynihan & Plante, 2007; Banyard, Plante & Moynihan, 2004; Banyard, Ward, Cohn, Plante, Moorhead, & Walsh, 2007). MVP: Mentors in Violence Prevention. The MVP program was written by Jackson Katz. This program focuses on discussing a male bystander who didn’t intervene when woman was in danger. An emphasis is placed on encouraging men to be active bystanders rather than standing by when they notice abuse. The bulk of the presentation is on processing hypothetical scenarios. Outcomes reported in research literature include lower levels of sexism and increased belief that participants could prevent violence against women (Cissner, 2009). Green Dot. The Green Dot program was written by Dorothy Edwards. This program includes both motivational speeches and peer education focused on bystander intervention. Outcomes show that program participation is associated with reductions in rape myth acceptance and increased bystander intervention(Coker, Cook-Craig, Williams, Fisher, Clear, Garcia & Hegge, 2011). In this line, the stablishment of solidarity networks, specially among peer, it also constitutes a strong initiative to prevent sexual violence. [27] Protocols for Preventing and Responding to sexual violence situations within institutions such as universities, have shown to be successful not only for acting to respond in front of concrete cases and help survivors, but also to prevent these situations from happening.[28] Educational Prevention Programs - In the last 10 years, there have been community and governmental efforts to change, increase, or put in place sexual assault prevention education programs in public schools across the United States. Most notably, in Illinois, where social worker; Erin Merryn advocated for legislation to put an assault prevention program into place in grades K-5 at Illinois public schools. Due to her own experience being molested and raped at a very young age, these programs aim to give young children the voice and tools to speak out against their perpetrator, something she felt she never had. What has come to be known in most states as "Erin's Law" is geared towards ending the silent epidemic of sexual assault; especially when it comes to the topic of child sexual abuse. These prevention programs also aim to educate adolescents about maintaining healthy relationships and intimate partner violence; as well as decrease rape myth attitudes and bystander awareness among men and women. These sexual assault prevention programs long-term goals will hopefully decrease the prevalence of child sexual abuse; as well as decrease rape myth attitudes later in life (In College for example) as well as decrease intimate partner violence. However, more empirical and longitudinal research will be needed to understand the effectiveness of these programs moving forward.[29] With sexual assaults raising such problems, prevention efforts have become a priority in many professional environments including schools. It is seen that thirty six percent of all sexual assault victims are between the ages of twelve and seventeen (NSOPW). Current prevention efforts should help decrease both the number of victims of sexual assaults and those who initiate the sexual assault. Since a large portion of sexual assaults happen to adolescents around the years of middle and high school ages, many of the prevention efforts are turned into programs, aimed at school students in middle and high schools, and sometimes even colleges (“Violence Prevention”). The sexual assault programs go along with the sexual education programs found in many schools around the nation. Currently, there are many parents that choose to opt their children out of these sexual education programs, which should not be an option, especially if these sex education programs are being combined with sexual assault awareness programs. education programs are being combined with sexual assault awareness programs. These programs provide pivotal information about sexual violence, whether it is bystander action, or how to spot the signs. There are three awareness programs to be found effective by the Centers for Disease Control. One is “Safe Dates”, which targets the start of any abuse, whether physical, sexual or emotional, from ever beginning. It targets eighth and ninth grade students, allowing them to change dating violence of adolescents. Another program that has been found effective is “Shifting Boundaries”, which is aimed towards middle school students with the intent of spreading knowledge on the subject as well as reducing the amount of current dating and sexual violence of adolescents. The final program that the CDC recognizes as effective is “RealConcent”, which is taught to college aged men, with the goal of reducing the amount of sexual violence, while encouraging bystander intervention in violence situations. All three of these programs seem to have played a hand in the goal of preventing sexual assaults (“Violence Prevention”). With the current number of adolescents being affected by sexual assaults, many have started efforts to increase knowledge and prevention of sexual violence. Currently, a large percentage of children and adolescents are involved in sexual assaults, which leads prevention efforts found in middle and high schools, as well as college campus programs. These successful programs that help students in each stage of their lives proves successful, and should be required for all students to participate in. NSOPW. "United States Department of Justice National Sex Offender Public Website." Facts and Statistics. U.S. Department of Justice, 2017. Web. 09 Apr. 2017. < https://www.nsopw.gov/en-US/Education/FactsStatistics?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1>. “Violence Prevention.” Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 7 June 2016. Web. 05 Apr. 2017. <https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/sexualviolence/prevention.html>. Community activism by men[edit] Men's groups against domestic violence against women by men and rape of women by men can be found in Australia, Africa, Latin America and the Caribbean and Asia, and in many parts of North America and Europe. The underlying theory for this type of initiative is that men must as individuals take measures to reduce their use of violence.[30] Typical activities include group discussions, education campaigns and rallies, work with violent men, and workshops in schools, prisons and workplaces. Actions are frequently conducted in collaboration with women's organizations that are involved in preventing violence against women and providing services to abused women. In the United States alone, there are over 100 such men's groups, many of which focus specifically on sexual violence. The Men Can Stop Rape group in Washington, DC, for instance, views masculinity as inherently violent and sexist and seeks to promote alternative forms of masculinity that foster non-violence and gender equality. Its recent activities have included conducting presentations in secondary schools, designing posters, producing a handbook for teachers and publishing a youth magazine.[31] Other groups, such as One in Four, focus on applying research based programs to sexual assault prevention on college campuses and in the military.[32]" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initiatives_to_prevent_sexual_violence
Was a claim to the contrary made? Each of the above programs involves bystanders becoming involved in order to prevent an attack from occurring, such as putting themselves at risk of harm by intervening, rather than simply allowing law enforcement to handle the matter themselves. Is such not discouraged and derisively referred to as vigilante justice, and taking the law into their own hands? Would not such initiatives suggest that concealed carry is beneficial and necessary in preventing sexual assaults from being successful? Or are bystanders expected to physically grapple with an unknown, potentially armed individual who has no qualms with using violence against others? None of which addresses the previously raised matter. The proposals above talk about matters of education and such, but not a single word of what has been presented actually addresses what potential victims should do when faced with a sexual assault, or how the proposals are superior to armed self defense. Such questions have not been answered. At best the presented solution is for the victim to do nothing, and instead someone else should come in and rescue them once violence has already been initiated against them.
Sorry, there's no magic solutions. No single answer. Life doesn't work that way. By all means, recommend to women who worry about rape that they own, keep, carry, a firearm, if that's what gets you through the night. If a women asked me I would give her a much more detailed, and nuanced response.
No one said that carrying is a magic solution. What we teach all students that are taking carry classes to qualify for their carry license, is that under the correct circumstances, the gun they carry can give them a fighting chance if they believe they are going to suffer great bodily harm if they don't deploy their firearm. BTW, women are getting their licenses at pace like never before. Sometimes I have mostly women classes. You wouldn't have seen that 5 years ago. Successful defensive uses of firearms happen every day. There is no denying it.
Don't compromise with them. Never compromise with them. It's a step by step process, they've even told you that.
I generally support a 'give and take' approach to gun control. Want a new law? Give up an old one. They wanna ban bump stocks and trigger cranks to prevent mass shootings, lets trade for deregulating suppressors and SBRs- two things never used in mass shootings. I understand the 'death by 1000 cuts' agenda against the 2A. I would not have voted for waiting periods. But I would like to see more ppl get their CCW.
Which still does not answer the question of how such proposals are regarded as superior to the concept of armed self defense. Explain how such is the case.
