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Are more being killed by Biden's

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  1. yangforward

    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are more being killed at present by Biden's rush at the Southern border,
    'Aid' for Ukraine, or 'Aid' for Israel?

    How does that compare with the Trump years?
     
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    Americans aren't getting killed in Ukraine.
    Americans were murdered when Gaza invaded Israel and Gaza continues to hold Americans hostage, but in no where near the numbers that Americans are being murdered by Bribed Joe and Open Borders illegals that some of the Left fight for.

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    That's tough call. In the short run, it might be aid to Ukraine or Israel.

    In the long run it could be Biden's border policies. We don't know how many people will be killed by fentanyl, gang violence and terrorist attacks given the garbage that Biden is letting into this country with no vetting. How long to we continue to the body count from Biden's policies?
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are right, it is a far more difficult question than I had thought it was.
     
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    In the early stage of the conflict in Ukraine, from Oct 2014 to Jan 2022, during the Trump years and before and in the first Biden year, before the 'aid' arrived, 14,000 Ukrainians died, about 4 per day, mostly in Donetsk and other cities with Russian-speaking majorities.

    Since the aid approved by Congress during 2021 arrived, from Feb 19th onward the average death rate has been 1,000 Ukrainian soldiers per day, civilian deaths have been around 2% of the total, and Russian soldiers about 160 per day.
     
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    The open border: deaths due to drug overdoses are higher now, but have been rising for years:
     
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    War in Ukraine:
    There people who claim it was a coincidence that the war grew from about 4 deaths per day to about 1,000
    from Feb 19th 2022, after the 'aid' had arrived and been distributed to the Ukrainian Army front line.

    But I have few doubts:
    1. Why did the Ukrainian Army take the 'aid' to the front line and use it to shell cities?
    2. Was it just bad luck that the 'aid' caused the conflict to grow into a full scale war
    and was it known that there was a neo Nazi element in the Ukraine Armed Forces?
    3. Under the previous two Presidents the conflict was very low level, just a few shells
    per day, and now it's a torrent.

    This isn't specifically anti Democratic Party point, Obama did a bit better than Trump.
     
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    I'm not going to debate about who is right and who is wrong
    in the Israel - Palestine war.
    But it is pretty clear that US
    'help' has made it a lot worse.

    For demolishing hospitals made of steel reinforced concrete
    and apartment complexes, 2,000 pound bombs have proven
    their worth.

    Gaza deaths Nov 22 2023.png
     
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    The ramifications of the vast amount of military aged Chinese men coming across our border has not been realized yet... wake up America...
    They are among us.
     

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