Are multiracials the "Master Race"?

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  1. Hanzou

    Hanzou New Member

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    Are Calblinasians genetically superior?

    http://www.isteve.com/caublinasians.htm

    Mixed Race= Pretty Face?

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200512/mixed-race-pretty-face

    I'm curious what the board's thoughts are on this. There is definitely a scientific basis for this belief, and people of mixed heritage tend to be very beautiful people, and are slowly dominating the world of fashion and beauty.
     
  2. IndieVisible

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    I think it might depend on the type of mix we are talking about. As we have seen in breeding horses and dogs and other animals. There are muts and then there are show specimen animals.

    I think that custom genetic engineering is a better solution to any sort of "master race" because really none of the races we have available are any thing worthy to brag about :)
     
  3. mikemikev

    mikemikev Banned

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    Look up "Hasty Generalization".

    Reminds me of a joke:

     
  4. Hanzou

    Hanzou New Member

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    Look up "Dodge".

    BTW, I figured you would enjoy this quote;

     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    I don't need to look it up because I know what it means, and it applies to me in no way.

    Here's a quote for you.

    And it's easy to just focus on "Tiger Woods" to "prove" your point. Did you clowns ever think of taking a scientific sample? How about including this guy?
     
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    In terms of nature, Mutts are physically better off than the show specimens. Pure breds or show animals would be dead within a matter of weeks on their own. Meanwhile, Mutts and hybrids tend to do extremely well in the wild. The Mustang is a prime example.
     
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    And here's a quote for you;

    Again;

    Are you going to do some more dodging?

    Why?
     
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    mikemikev Banned

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    What on Earth are you going on about?
     
  9. Hanzou

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    Read the articles, its all there.

    As for your earlier quote, a person of mixed background is more likely to offspring with someone of a different race. Tiger Woods for example had children with a woman from Sweden, though he himself is a person of mostly Black and Asian heritage.

    In the end, outbreeding depression is pretty unlikely in human populations.
     
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    I am unfamiliar with the term "outbreeding depression." Is that a valid scientific principle, or is it one of those terms you only find in racist dogma?
     
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    The idea of a "master race" is a myth
     
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    What is your source for that? I never heard of outbreeding depression. The rest of it also sounds like gobbledigook.

    I have seen worse birth defects in un-mixed offspring of several races. Got details?

    Edit: Never mind. It's from Chimpout. Take it back to the latrine you dug it out of and don't forget to put more quicklime in the pit.
     
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    As a person of mixed race, I don't feel qualified to opine on this topic. Due to my superior athletic and intellectual ability, my generous endowment, and the numerous children I've put through private school...I'd just like to hear other's take on the matter and wonder if they'd like a cookie. :blankstare:


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    I would not venture to say that wide-spread race-mixing will produce a "master race." It certainly will, however, drive human evolution in a beneficial direction in that there will be healthier breeding populations selecting for advanced qualities such as physical beauty and good health and, hopefully, greater intelligence.

    Hybrid vigor is, over-all, good. I do not give much credence to the concept of outbreeding depression as an argument against inter-racial marriage. From the reasearch I have been able to do tonight, it appears that this is a greater problem where isolated populations have begun the process of speciation away from a common ancestor. Were it a real threat to human evolution, Aryans should never have existed, because our neanderthalensis ancestors were WAY on the road to speciation into something else.

    If outbreeding depression can be said to have occurred within the human population, it would appear to me to have resulted in the birth of the Tasmanians, perhaps as a result of mixing of H. idaltu with the Denisovans, who, living at the far end of the H. neanderthalensis range, would have been further along in the process of speciation into something else. This would have then been aggravated by renewed inbreeding depression as they found themselves isolated again from new genetic input by the rising sea levels, after which they may have begun a new process of speciation.

    They were, in effect, the last know "pure race" of Homo sapiens.

    As for examples of peoples who have been actively interbreeding for centuries, I do not see any sign of outbreeding depression among this lot.
     

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    What you write is nonsense. You demonstrate your utter layman status through never having heard of out-breeding depression. Then waffle some garbage about Tasmanians being the last "pure race" after forming from a mix of idaltu and Denisovans. You have no scientific knowledge whatsoever. Just a confirmation bias towards "equality and race mixing", and a tendency to make up pseudo scientific garage around it, garbage which is utterly divorced from reality.
     
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    Just look at mixed race places like Brazil, Mexico or Kazakhstan, and compare to Switzerland or Japan. This whole "mixed race is great" argument is a lie which ignores intelligence differences.

    The funniest part is Leftysergeant posting pics of ugly mixed race people.
     
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    Too broad brushed. A pure bred German Shepard would have no trouble surviving verses a domestic mutt. Depends on the breed. Depends what your looking for. If surviving in the wild was the only requirement then a wolf will do better then any dog. pure bred or mutt. As for humans, I still think genetic engineering is a better way to truly achieve a "master race" because as I said, none of our current races are any thing to brag about. Any real improvements will take genetic engineering because there really is no significant difference between any human breed. And beauty is purely in the eye of the beholder and not a factor for survival.
     
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    There is no such thing as a "master race". We all have different genetic characteristics (good, bad and indifferent), some of those characteristics will have higher or lower tendencies within certain groups and will be mixed, combined, exaggerated or balanced as and when different groups interbreed.

    It should always be remembered that individual variation will be at least significant than racial tendencies though - there is as much variation between individuals with groups as between different groups in general (your "race" having a higher than average IQ doesn't prevent you being an idiot ;) ).

    I suspect the perceived attractiveness of some racial mixes is somewhat different though. It could be that there is a fine balance between similar enough to be comfortably familiar yet different enough to be exotic and interesting.
     
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    Genetic designer engineering will change all that. Mixing races does nothing to enhance genetics or appearance. Some prefer mix, some prefer just one, doesn't matter. As you and I pointed out, mixing races is not how to create a master race, far from it.

    We need significant enhancements for a master or superior race, only way would be genetic engineering and it is coming!
     
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    Iceland which practices controlled inbreeding has a very healthy and successful population.

     
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    Lose the attitude. You are not the smartest person in the room. You are, however, one of the more arrogant. I had never heard the term- outbreeding depression before, so I researched it. Now I know why I never heard it. It has bugger all to do with human populations. With voluntary out breeding, you get to pick the most fit mates. That leaves ugly or crude or arrogant schlubs off the breeding rosters.

    No wonder you hate the idea.
     
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    Wrong again. Outbreeding depression occurs in humans when gene complexes are broken and mismatch. Did you even read the articles I posted? Therefore "the most fit mates" are on a point between inbreeding and outbreeding depression, calculated optimally at around the third cousin.

    Very limited gene flow between populations may be benficial in the very long term.

    Large scale unrestrained mixing would catastrophic.

    You are the most arrogant ("bigot", "bigot" etc.) and also the most offensive.
     
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    So that would mean that the unrestrained mixing within the American "white" majority group is "catastrophic".

    No wonder their birth rates are declining.....
     
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    I have seen nothing to support this claim.

    Not supported by available data. Tay-Sachs is an example of how your theory runs into the ditch.

    No data to support this absurdity.

    You are the most arrogant ("bigot", "bigot" etc.) and also the most offensive.
     
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    Inbreeding does not produce a master race, nor does it improve any thing, it only dilutes whats already there. It does not not systematically remove weaknesses and replaces them with strengths. And it has nothing to do with evolution. in fact we are not even mixing races, we are all the human race, in order to create a new race we would need to find another race to mix with. Simply mixing ethnic backgrounds does not change any thing except appearance. And again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder, means nothing.

    if you want a superior race, you need to systematically improve weaknesses with new strengths and that would be thru genetic engineering, not inter-racial sex lol.
     

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