Are politicians smart?

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  1. Interaktive

    Interaktive Well-Known Member

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    Are politicians smart?
    they can't often go for a 2 term presidency
    so politicians are not very smart
    I am a specialist in criminal law of Ukraine. I am smarter than my colleague from India, because India is in the g20
    Ukraine is richer than India
     
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    Interaktive Well-Known Member

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    Is silence a sign of consent?
    lawyers are not dumber than politicians
     
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    Na und...? :confusion:
     
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    undertheice Well-Known Member

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    We usually end up with the government we deserve, so the real question is whether the people are intelligent or not. I look at the political decisions that we the people make and I can come to only one conclusion.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are at the very least deceptive.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Are politicians smart?

    They appear to range from above average all the way up to a few way above average.

    They have a big advantage of not believing the media, but in many cases hear the truth.

    Most appear to make stupid decisions because they work for those who pay them or get them back in,
    the lobbyists and the movers and shakers.

    The only ones who will work for us are any who are already very rich and just want people
    to like them, basically Donald Trump.
     
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    I see your question, and raise you another.

    Who is more foolish? The fool or the fool who follows him?

    Politicians tend to be morons. But we're the ones who keep electing morons.

    And thus follows the unofficial motto of....

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    What gets me is how we try so hard to make presidency a “royal family birthright” since George W. Bush won in 2000. In 2016, we almost got stuck with Bill Clinton’s wife in 2016. Now the rumors are flying that Obama’s wife will be the Democrat candidate in 2024. She will probably win, if she runs, since she is female, Black, progressive and a member of “the royal family.”
     
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    Michelle Obama will have to account for his lack of experience. He would just be a figure head anyway..... just like with O'Biden the last 3 years. Barry runs the show.
     
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    The Democrats now have a tradition of a figurehead president who is really like the King or Queen of England, a head of state. Obama will get his second eight years.
     
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    She probably would, too. Americans love celebrity. Do you not think this rule applies to the opposite side?
     
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    We have already had the Bush family. One of Trump sons could conceivably crop up in 2028, but no Trumps have a track record except for some regular appearances on Fox News. They have now disappeared from regular view on Fox.

    Of course the old man is so cantankerous he’d probably disown any family who tried to upstage him.
     
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    hardly.
     
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    Huh?
     
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    bambam was no leader. he was just another empty suit, pushing forward the progressive (to be read socialist/globalist) agenda. the next generation of clintonites are running the show and we'll probably never really know who they are. it's like a series of shell corporations. look behind biden or michelle and you find barry. look behind barry and you find the usual democratic suspects. look behind them and there are several more layers of authoritarian globalists. look at the republicans and you will find something similar. why do you think they are still hounding trump? he is out of their loop. they can't simply stick him into a dead end position and let him end some meaningless political career and they can't use him as a shield. their only hope is to make an example of him by constant persecution.
    i suppose you are trying to refer to baby bush and, of course, trump. what you have to remember is that the american electorate is about as dumb as a box of rocks. name recognition is more important than policy to a population that expects to be lied to. though baby bush certainly got a bump from daddy's name, he was also in the right place at the right time. after eight years of slick willy the nation was in the mood for someone a little more down home and he seemed like a safe bet. no one expected 9/11 and its aftermath on his watch, but the democrats took full advantage of a media blitz that portrayed him as a war mongering daddy' boy. then there was the trump brand. after eight years of obama failure, the nation looked for a firebrand to bring them out of the slump and trump's reputation was there to satisfy that need. a businessman, a risk taker and not just another political animal, trump gave us a way out of the miasma of federal over-reach. he believed in the american capitalist dream and there were just enough folks who still remembered the cautionary tale of the soviet union to put him in the driver's seat. it really is too bad that activist judges, media darlings and the democratic party's dirty tricks squad thwarted him at nearly every turn.
     
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    I kind of agree, but that would be assuming that Trump resembles something akin to the person that he was when he was a little bit younger. He turned out to be utterly thin skinned and too sensitive for the job. you can't just have ideas - you need to actually work with people to get things done in government. And you also need to know when to shut your mouth and listen to experts. He also, obviously, couldn't keep his own house in order, either. Lawsuits related to his business dealings spilling left, right and centre.

    I thought he was perhaps a bit of a moderate pretending to be an extremist to pull in the extreme vote, but it turned out in the end to be the opposite. And I'm not even including post-November 2020 in this assessment, nor the fact that he's going a bit senile and out of ideas.
     
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    people don't really change. trump is trump and the only difference is that he has now gone through the ringer of political excoriation. it is true that you must work with others to get anything done, but it is also true that they must work with you. this was never done during trump's administration. he and everyone he knew was attacked in the most brutal fashion. lies and half-truths became fact and every time it was all about trump being a criminal. his house was in order, as much as any house can be. could your house stand the sort of scrutiny that he is under? could any of these political animals who attack him claim to be entirely blameless in every facet of their lives?

    i wasn't originally a trump fan, but he has become sort of a hero of mine. as the political world drives him insane, he still trudges on and tries to give as good as he gets. in office he was undermined at every turn. out of office he has been the scapegoat of every moron with an ax to grind and a warning by the political powers to any who would attempt to try and change the status quo. your choice is obvious. do you blindly follow along with the powers that be or are you brave enough to buck the tide of authoritarianism?
     
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    I do believe that silence is to some degree a sign of consent.....
    ....
    That is why I am attempting to make lots of noise both on political forum but on other internet forums as well.

    I truly do believe that what we write online and what we say to our friends does have a noticeable impact.

    ....
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...from-the-ottawa-swamp.551407/#post-1070261992
     

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