Are pot smokers criminals?

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Are pot smokers criminals?

  1. Yes, and we should lock 'em up

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  2. No, because I'm a pot smoker myself

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  1. markt2530

    markt2530 Banned

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    They clearly are, willing to risk their freedoms for some dumb altered state of mind. Who knows what other crimes they're capable of committing, especially when it comes to getting money for their next fix?
     
  2. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Depends what you mean by "criminal". Is a criminal anyone who disobeys an edict of the state? Is the person who speaks out against North Korea a criminal in that country? I suppose they are - but I have a feeling this isn't what you want answered.

    More likely, you want to know if they're criminals from a moral perspective. At some point we have to determine what the law should be rather than what it is - this is the point of this thread, am I correct?

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    In that case, it obviously depends on what you view as coercive behavior. For instance: the North Korean regime might claim some citizen is a criminal, but we'd disagree, because although he would be breaking the law to speak out and protest - he is not initiating any force against anyone else, and so North Korea is wrong about him being a criminal - from our perspective at least.

    Apply the same sort of thinking to cannabis. If you think growing a plant and inhaling its smoke is coercive - all the power to you. I disagree, and I'll express my preferences through action. Just as I'd disobey the North Korean regime even though that would make me a legal criminal, I regularly disobey the Australian regime and smoke cannabis.

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    The important thing to realize here is that when it comes to the question of moral criminality, there are no right or wrong answers - only subjective preference. The "legal law" is just another one of those preferences, albeit one well represented by men with guns, politicians, the majority in society, etc.

    As for your poll, I realize that it's all a bit of fun - there's nothing wrong with having loaded questions. As a result, I guess I'll vote for "No, because I'm a pot smoker myself".
     
  3. Margot2

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    So you assume that everyone who is for legalization is a pothead?

    What's wrong with that picture?
     
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    Stupid polls are stupid.
     
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    I suppose "technically" they are seeing how marijuana IS illegal in most places. However I don't find their behavior wrong.

    I sat on the couch and downed a good 10 beers watching a marathon on tv last night. Finally stumbled upstairs around 2am and passed out.

    I can't logically understand why I should be allowed to do that but it should be criminal for someone to sit on their couch and get high on weed.
     
  6. ArmySoldier

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    Technically they are criminals since it's against the law in most places (and federally). So they can't blame police for arresting them if they are doing something illegal.

    However, it'll be legal everywhere eventually
     
  7. One Mind

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    LOL, What sort of brain creates such a poll?

    So, as the prosecuting attorney asked he defendant, "when was the last time you beat your wife?" (the defendant had already maintained he never touched his wife)

    Pot smokers should be criminals ONLY if you own their body. So it appears you demand to own another man's body. I think your are a fascist. For your beliefs betray you.

    Why do so many people demand to own the bodies of others? What is next? You own them so if they eat fatty foods, you throw them into prison? For that would be based upon the same principle that you believe in. You sir, are dangerous. For you hate the idea of me owning my own body, and my own consciousness. You think you have a right to own me. A slave owner mentality. Your ancestors own slaves and fought to keep that right?

    You would be more at home in an Islamic state, for they believe in owning others. Convert right away. And move way when you do it.

    To some folks being free to own others is considered to be freedom. That is how their cloudy brains operate.

    I don't care what you eat, what you drink, or what drugs you use, whether booze or other drugs. For I do not own your body, but I damn well own my own. Why do you insist on owning others? The incoherence is astounding, so you must be a conservative? Or perhaps a liberal that has lost the ability to think rationally. Lots of that going around these days. LOL

    But look, I don't blame you, for you have been conditioned to think as you do. I blame the conditioning, which is incoherent. And you and others cannot look from a point that is outside of that conditioning. For you are not aware of the conditioning. Once you are aware, then intelligence can finally operate.

    And BTW, I do not do drugs, nor do I drink booze. But what I do, do, is to believe that you have no right to own another man which means you have no right to imprison him for smoking something you don't like. For unlike you, I actually think freedom is of the greatest value. And I don't care much for people who demand to own others, to make slaves of them, and to punish them when they do not meet your own conditioned belief system.
     
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    Are you for real ? :eekeyes: 98% couldn't find the motivation to get off the couch , unless of course it was to raid the refrigerator .:roflol:
     
  9. One Mind

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    It is called incoherence.
     
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    Yes, some people don't believe that someone else should own their bodies, and by George they will disobey those that do. They stick up the middle finger to the law. As they should. These people that want to own their own bodies are much less dangerous to humanity than the people who demand to own the body of others and pass laws to punish them.

    Man has used such substances since we dropped down from the trees, perhaps even prior to that. Ever look at the list of booze that the founding fathers consumed as they were formulating this new nation? They were drinking themselves dumb.

    Owning the bodies of others is fairly recent in our history, as we moved away from the idea of personal freedom into what we are today. I don't think this loss of freedom is what the founders ever envisioned for our people.
     
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    Let's get practical here. Otherwise, your last three presidents were felons, particularly the 43rd one.

    I hear ya. Narcotics should be perfectly legal for those who can afford them.
     
  12. PatrickT

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    I don't object to pot smokers or Jehovah's Witnesses but their constant proselytizing gets on my nerves.
     
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    I am sure some pot smokers are criminals.. just like some drinkers are criminals.
     
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    Pot smokers are worse. You'd think they had discovered sex or something.
     
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    I hope the OP's ban is permanent. He's nothing but a troll, and not a very good one at that.
     
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    Where is the "no, even though i dont smke pot"?
     
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    I cannot vote because I need a "No, but I am not a pot smoker" option.
     
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    Other: No and I'm not a pot smoker.
     
  19. PatrickT

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    Cigarette smokers are definitely criminals. I got busted once for smoking less than 25' from a window on a public building. When I pointed at that the window didn't open I was told that didn't matter because the law say simply a window.

    But, don't worry. In the U.S. now, everyone is a criminal.
     
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    Your poll is idiotic.

    Why should the only reason that I can say "no" be if I am a pot smoker as well? Lots of people dont smoke pot and dont think they should be locked up. Again. To re-iterate. Your poll isnt just idiotic. It shows a level of uninformed reasoning.
     
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    Hmm? A person who defies a law that is based on lies, and is deliberately characterized and defined falsely, so innocent free people can be falsely destroyed by tyrannical government is a true patriot if this country is actually based on such ideals. If they are imprisoned, they are political prisoners, and they are being abused by tyranny. If they are fined for their disobedience by a court they are being robbed with an illegitimate legal authority by a court that is anything but fair and just.
     
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    I couldn't vote in your poll because I don't think pot smokers are criminals, and, I don't smoke it myself, and haven't for many years. You gave so few choices. You could have done a much better job of structuring them, don't you think?

    Anyway, you can legally smoke weed here in Colorado. Nobody really cares now, one way or the other. I can tell you that very honestly it has made no discernible difference in things here in Colorado generally. You don't see any more bums and "campers" crashed out in the public parks now than before. We always had plenty of them when they were just a bunch of drunks. As for grass? It's very expensive here, but it is legal. If bums are smoking weed, they must have a special cheap source for it.

    You could commit crimes while you're stoned on grass, I suppose. Honestly, the last thing I ever had on my mind while smoking grass back in the ancient day was me going out and committing some kind of crime... what a hassle and bother! I'd rather have been naked in bed with a girl, or eating pizza or something....
     
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    I don't think I've ever seen someone so high on pot they could come up with such a dumb poll and OP.
     

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