Are the French correct on cannabis?

As I said the one time I was foolish enough to initiate an engagement on the topic of the poison that is pot...

If a safe strain of pot could be developed AND strictly regulated AND strict liability apply to the sociopaths who supply it by gift or sale (you break somebody's life by hooking them on pot, you pay for the damage for the rest of their lives), I say go for making it legal.

In the meantime, pot is an INCREDIBLY dangerous and addictive drug; pure poison.

 

No, that would be the definition of conservative mythology.

 

Been smoking cannabis for bout 60 years. Off and on. Never addicted. Stopped too many times over the decades. I enjoy the buzz . I don't like the buzz on booze. I prefer good sativa. Makes any activity more enjoyable. Like being a kid and playing in the summer dirt with toy cars.

Makes work more enjoyable along with fishing. I used to smoke a joint on the way to a deer hunt. But when I saw this big buck, it was so majestic and beautiful that I couldn't kill it. I gave up hunting after that. Still fish though.

You should get yourself a gram of legal sativa and smoke the whole gram. And then go cut your lawn.

I once got the munchies on some Columbian gold back in 78 and all I had that didn't need cooking was a can of showboat pork and beans and loaf bread. It was as good as eating steak! Taste intensifies.

I think a gram would clean your act up!!

Get rid of that puckered anus.lol

 

It makes some people creative. Sativa that is. Always motivated me to do something. Other people who are lazy just get lazier

So not for everyone!

Never dulled my mind. Made reality more vivid! A plus.

 

No more than watching your fav serial.

 

It has proven medicinal value. Can stop seizures in some kids and safer than other meds..

Not poison but a blessing from god. He made it for us. As he made willows for aspirin. And foxglove for heart trouble.

Citrus fruits for vitamin C to keep disease at bay.

 

Well the whole reefer madness thing was just a scare tactic. And I think lying to people is probably not a good thing because it costs you credibility and it assumes that people are stupid enough to believe you.

But I did read this from the article.

"The move comes amid concerns about drug-related violence and was announced by PM Jean Castex on a trip to Nice, which has seen weeks of unrest."

This isn't about weed per se it's about the supply. Legalizing it would get rid of the criminal element that supplies it it's probably go a lot longer to reducing violence than cracking down on it. It seems like cracking down on it would just raise the steaks.

I don't know why it's not as legal as alcohol.

 

I've often wondered why political party that believes in individual liberties would support not having this liberty.

I think it dates back to the idea that we needed good factory workers and that means sober punctual and obedient.

Never watched it high but I did get a laugh out of it.

Agreed.

 

or fave chocolate candy - or "Enstrom's Almond Toffee" - which is the sugar equivalent of crack.

My Grandparents lived close to where that stuff started out. https://www.enstrom.com/Pages/Our+Story/

Not sure if you hail from the US - but it would be worth shipping it oversea's "Scouts Honor" -even though I was never a boy Scout

 

Those people were already apathetic. Cannabis won't cure apathy nor laziness.

 

Yep an American.

 

The sativa of the 7Os was better than the sativa of today IMO.

 

Damn right. Get the corporations out of it. Plus growing your own would be fun! And cheap.

 

Too much meth and you can go crazy and get violent.

Too much cannabis and you just go to sleep. Or eat too much.

Cannabis is a very safe escape from reality that can really suck. Its temporary and can be a healthy distraction. Very safe compared to hard drugs including alcohol.

Criminalizing cannabis is very harmful and stupid.

The only sane way to deal with all drugs is to educate people the bad things involved with honesty. Then make them legal to buy from a store and tax them.

With dosages controlled and purity. Ditch the war against our people and offer help to get off the hard drugs including alcohol.

This cleans out prisons and reduces load on the justice system.

It removes the criminals from the equation..

Coke , opiates etc were once legal and could be bought in stores legally. Some people got addicted . Yet society did not implode! The problems started when govt made them illegal. Never underestimate the power of stupidity!

 

Conservatives: Vastly more logical than liberals

 

Spare us - you keep making these unsupported claims which are abject nonsense .. 40 million people in this nation are regular users of Pot - and the hospitals are not full of "Pot Overdoses" every weekend - they do have a few alcohol related OD's and other issues related to alcohol.

You have not a sniff what you are talking about.

 

Yes but only on some things. They are illogical, irrational and unreasonable when it comes to waging a trillion dollar war on any mind altering substance including sugar and caffeine. Or nicotine. For such a war cannot be won.

And god given rights are pissed on by conservatives. And they can't win a war against basic human nature. Many people have always used different pleasure creating plants . For pleasure .

That is the fact . How society deals with this can be based upon intelligence or utter stupidity. And cons and even liberals have shown they are irrational and driven by emotions on this issue.

At one time even hard drugs were available and legal as treatments for various ailments. And we knew opiates and cocaine was addictive. But our govt allowed us to make our own choices without locking people up for consuming something. And society did not implode! In fact we were better off!

To repeat the same actions while expecting different results is a form of insanity. To ignore this is utter stupidity.

Spending trillions, on a war against humanity isn't smart nor sensible. You can't win such a war. It causes more harm than the drugs. The attempted cure is much worse than the disease.

Intelligence is not being used. Emotions trump intelligence . Hell you may as well try to outlaw sex or eating certain good tasting food.

 

I wish it affected me that way?

 

Rather silly. Should I assume that you are being sarcastic? The difference between pot and hooch is slight. Why is it that moonshine poisoning is pretty much non-existent in the west? That's right .... booze is under the scrutiny of government control. So, what were you saying about "a safe strain"?

 

I have no idea why the French are so reluctant to decriminalize pot. But then the French have never been the model of tolerance.

 

I can’t believe there are violent criminal cartels dealing almost exclusively with pot. It does very little social damage so on balance legalizing it is a net social good whilst leaving the cartels without a large source of income. It also has Americans going to Denver rather than Amsterdam which is a net social good for the Netherlands

 

I don't know enough about the French ethos even hazard a guess.

I live in the state of Texas and there's people that will give birth to a thousand pound frog before they legalized recreational use of weed.

Honestly I think they believe the reefer madness stuff, and they also don't like it. Maybe they are worried they would lose control of themselves. I did enough weed in my younger years I know I don't really care for it. Maybe the problem is it didn't rebel enough when they were young.

As far as what motivates the French I've no idea.

 

Well the thing is that alcohol has a therapeutic index of about three and pot has one of something like thirty thousand which is why so many die of alcohol poisoning and no one dies of pot ingestion.

 

No I get what you’re saying.
I don’t do pot cause I don’t like my reaction to it.
I won’t take it away from others though.
Having said that one should never drive stoned and there are occupations where being under pot influence should remain criminalized just like with alcohol.
As for the French, I haven’t met one yet that did not irritate me immediately.
Except for the girls cause they are pretty cute.

 

At one time our pot came from cartels along with Coke. Cartels have people growing it in national forests now but the high quality cannabis from Ca. has reduced the cartel cannabis..

The cartels are mostly in the meth biz these days.