Are You Racist if you do not like black people?

Widely held but oversimplified is an accurate definition in my opinion.
They are widely held and simplified for a reason. Stereotypes aren't the byproduct of a large group of folks with a big imagination. Stereotypes evolve as society does. Streorypes aren't always true.
Dismissing them as lazy is kosher to say but completely contrary to life experience and observations. Discussing the origin and accuracy of stereotypes and the frequency with which they're believed would be a profoundly more interesting conversation.

 

Everyone has a right to be racist

 

QUOTE=ECG;1065889779]Everyone has a right to be racist[/QUOTE]

So much coinfusion about waycism............ask 10 people on here to define it and you will get 10 different definitions as most make up their own definition. Not to put that particular modus operandi down but simply to point out what we are dealing with when we attempt to discuss the topic.

Which reminds me of the fact that most people do not understand how a dictionary operates anyhow.........aka a dictionary merely reports the common usage of a woid. Which of course...when examined analytically ....does not exclude the possibility the masses are wrong...irregardless....to attempt to get at the true meaning of any word one must get into ................'Etymology'......................Etymology is the study of the history of words, their origins, and how their form and meaning have changed over time. By extension, the term "the etymology (of a word)" means the origin of the particular word.
For a language with a long written history, etymologists make use of texts in these languages and texts about the languages to gather knowledge about how words were used during earlier periods of their history and when they entered the languages in question. Etymologists also apply the methods of comparative linguistics to reconstruct information about languages that are too old for any direct information to be available.
By analyzing related languages with a technique known as the comparative method, linguists can make inferences about their shared parent language and its vocabulary. In this way, word roots have been found that can be traced all the way back to the origin of, for instance, the Indo-European language family. fr. Wikipedia...see 'Etymology at Wikipedia'

Even though etymological research originally grew from the philological tradition, currently much etymological research is done on language families where little or no early documentation is available, such as Uralic and Austronesian.
The word etymology is derived from the Greek word ἐτυμολογία, etymologia, itself from ἔτυμον, etymon, meaning "true sense", and the suffix -logia, denoting "the study of".[1][2] In linguistics, the term etymon is used to refer to a word or morpheme from which a later word is derived. For example, Latin candidus, which means "white", is the etymon of English candid.

The Origin of racism>>>>>

http://www.cryaloud.com/racism_origin_racial_profiling_xenophobia_hate_crimes.htm

 

Some more interesting stuff in regards to racism..........over the head of the average poster on here no doubt but for those of a more academic proclivity>>>>>'Hitler was a anti-racist'



'One of the most enduring myths of the latter part of the Twentieth Century is the myth of Nazi racism. The overwhelming majority of
people today believe that Nazi Germany was little more than a colossal race-hate machine that had as its goal the extermination of all
the non-white races of the world and the establishment of a race of blond-haired, blue-eyed Aryan supermen under the aegis of a
Greater Reich that would last a thousand years. Some people - anti-Nazi propagandists and their dupes - go even further and claim that
the Nazis planned to exterminate not simply all Jews, non-whites and gypsies but all Slavs and other whites who were likewise regarded
by Hitler and his merry men as Untermenschen. What are the true facts?

Surprising as it may seem, Adolf Hitler was not a racist at all but was in fact a dedicated "anti-racw/", and the majority of leading
Nazis shared his ideals. Can this be true, I hear the skeptical reader ask? Haven't we all seen the proof of Nazi racism" 1 Surely every
schoolchild has seen photographs of Belsen and Dachau concentration camps: the piles of bodies of Jews gassed by the wicked Nazis;
films of the camps; the Nuremberg Trials...

The answer to these questions is yes and no Certainly we have all seen indisputable evidence of Nazi ill-treatment of and bestiality
towards the Jewish people, but the issue is not Nazi brutality which was meted out to Jew and non-Jew alike in war time, but Nazi
racism. Were the Nazis racist? I think not. '


https://archive.org/stream/AdolfHitlerAnti-racist/adolf-hitler-anti-racist-archive_djvu.txt



https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...XDs2vr2J_4K3YsocQ&sig2=Z_gKOCMqWevNt7CA_ewNUg

 

Then why the self-segregation of most of them?

 

Self-segregation is a throwback to actual segregation that was enforced by law. Different groups simply got accustomed to being around each other. People have been mingling for decades. Interracial marriages are on the rise and interracial friendships are more and more common.

 

Yeah, that totally explains why blacks don't settle in Latino communities. Segregation and stuff. Or something.

No, rather people self-segregate which is why we have Jewish enclaves, Arab enclaves, African enclaves, and so forth.

Nobody is making Arab immigrants not move in to Latino areas or Asians not move in to black areas.

 

Having enclaves isn't really self-segregation. A logical explanation for why groups of people live among themselves is because people naturally interact with those like them. Those communities had to form at one point or another to develop their identities. Why would you move in to a neighborhood away from your family and your culture? Some people do it for financial reasons but most people stay where they are and that is why there are ethnic enclaves. That has nothing to do with segregation. Segregation is institutional separation within a community. Self-segregation would be something like only sitting with people of your own race or ethnicity in a cafeteria because you are consciously choosing not to sit by others or choosing not to make friends outside your race or excluding certain groups from membership in some social activity like church or social clubs etc.

 

To be fair, while I don't believe that immutable "racial differences" are the cause of segregation as the racialists here would claim, there might be a (coincidental) correlation between cultural and biological affinities between populations even without the influence of racialism. Absent certain barriers, populations that live close to one another and have more interaction with one another will probably tend to have more in common genetically and culturally than either will with populations living further apart. As much as they've traditionally hated one another, the Japanese and Koreans probably have more in common both on a cultural and genetic level than either of them would have with, say, the Sudanese. So if you were to have waves of Japanese and Koreans immigrating to Sudan, they might put aside their differences and congregate with one another on recognition of their shared commonality relative to the Sudanese.

Of course, one could think of any number of variables confounding this correlation. If some of the Japanese were to convert to some local Sudanese religion, develop the hots for Sudanese chicks/dudes, or whatever, they might hang out with the natives moreso than either the Koreans or even the other Japanese.

Regardless, that's not the same as saying whites stay away from blacks due to DA DIFFWINSUNS or whatever the racialists claim.

 

I recall reading of Brazilian mulattoes picking spouses who are also mulattoes based on the degree of black or white phenotype.

Darker mulattoes picked other dark mulattoes and whiter mulattoes picked lighter.

 

I think the same way. I do not think that they are less good than us, but I sure do that there are far more idiots in their lines than in "our" "White Christians"
What I do hate is western liberal people who talk about equality and anti racism while living in 100% white rich christian neighborhoods.

 

Unless you're living in a mud hut and communicating with two cans and a string...take a look around you.

 

You haven't answered my question.

 

I haven't had a lot of interactions with blacks in my lifetime (Latinos are more prevalent in these parts) but I used to play quite a bit of baseball and I can tell ya - best teammates ever. Can I extrapolate that to the rest of the black population in different settings? Probably not. Best idea, take it as it comes and hold off on judgement.

 

What's wrong with being racist? I'm racist, but I don't act racist.

 

Absolutely nothing and most people are.....though most have no clue what racism is. You see most people make up their own definition....ax 10 people on here what it is and you will get about 10 different responses...now some may just go to a dictionary and copy and past that...since they themselves have no clue what racism is.....most coinfuse it with discrimination.

The original meaning of racism simply meant to understand that race determines human characteristics. .....aka a simple recognition of genetics and how genes are the blueprint for the human genome

 

No, the original meaning of racism has always been racial discrimination and policies based on that. The word racism was coined by a French author in reference to Nazi propaganda.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=racist&allowed_in_frame=0

Racist

1932 as a noun, 1938 as an adjective, from race (n.2); racism is first attested 1936 (from French racisme, 1935), originally in the context of Nazi theories. But they replaced earlier words, racialism (1871) and racialist (1917), both often used early 20c. in a British or South African context. In the U.S., race hatred, race prejudice had been used, and, especially in 19c. political contexts, negrophobia.

Racism is defined in the dictionary and in common use. If you ask 10 different people on the forum or 100 different people in real life most likely the majority of answers will be that racism is racial discrimination. In the dictionary the most common definition is that racism is based on the idea that human characteristics are determined by racial differences and that some races should rule others (e.g. Racial Supremacy). This definition fits with Scientific Racism although modern racists usually don't say that they want to rule over different races, most of them are racial separatists who believe that races can't get a long because of racial differences and need to be separated.

 

The Oxford English Dictionary.....not to be coinfused with lesser publications ..................is the King of Dictionaries.

From the 1935 edition of The Oxford English Dictionary:


[f. RACE n.2 + -ISM; cf. F. racisme (Robert 1935).]

a. The theory that distinctive human characteristics and abilities are determined by race. b. = RACIALISM.



However....................Dictionaries are not the real authorities that we go to when we want to find the real meaning of a term.....to do that one must get into etymology.

Dictionaries are descriptive records of what words mean, judged by word usage. The OED is the best English dictionary available. Still, dictionaries are attempts by fallible human beings to record how people use the words.

Anyone who has been online awhile and gotten involved in debates on race and racism know full well how most folks have different ideas in regards to what racism is...most either make up their own or consult some free online dictionary of questionable authority.

 

'Racism is a term usually only used by critics. Official definitions of racism often state that the term should only be applied on the belief that some races are superior and on negative actions due to this. In practice it is often applied as a form of ad hominem on anyone believing in the existence of races or even on persons only advocating restricting immigration, persons only criticizing another culture or multiculturalism, persons only supporting their own country/ethnicity, and so on.

The Oxford English Dictionary states the first English use of the word racism as occuring in 1902. The word at this early time did not necessarily have the same meaning or frequent usage as today. Racism has been stated to have been used as a derogatory and misleading translation of the "untranslatable" German term völkische starting the in 1920s. The German language, especially at this time, makes a distinction between Völk and Rasse ("Race"). It was later applied to claimed National Socialism racial ideology and policies. The 1938 English translation of the book Racism by the Jewish sexologist Magnus Hirschfeld (who was also an early proponent of the sexual revolution) used the word in a sense similar to the modern one and may have contributed to this usage of the word becoming widespread.

The term racism "replaced earlier words, racialism (1871) and racialist (1917), both often used early in a British or South African context. In the U.S., race hatred, race prejudice had been used.

It is possible to advocate for racial segregation despite not seeing any group as superior and instead argue that racial segregation would be beneficial for all groups due to factors such as problems caused ethnic heterogeneity and mixed race groups having problems due to genetic outbreeding depression and psychological issues caused by identity issues. Irregardless, racial segregation is often viewed as a form of racism.
Two sides

Descriptions of argued racism tend to be completely one-sided where the argued racist offender is depicted as acting out of innate evilness and unexplained spite and the argued victim is depicted as completely blameless with no responsibility for the events. In reality the circumstances, interactions, and/or motives of the two sides may be more complex.

Pro-White or pro-European organizations are often more or less automatically accused of racism.

In contrast, accusations of racism are much rarer against, for example, pro-Black or pro-Jewish organizations who openly and extensively lobby for the self-interests of their own group.


A 2013 US survey found that both Blacks and Whites thought that Blacks were the most racist group.

A 2011 study found that both White and Blacks in the US agreed that anti-Black racism had decreased over the last 60 years. However, Whites believed that anti-White racism had increased and had became a bigger problem than anti-Black racism. Also Blacks believed that anti-White racism had increased.

A 2012 survey in France found 56% thought that anti-White racism was increasing in areas in the large cities.

A 2012 study found that almost one in three (29%) of Whites in Britain said they now expected to be treated worse than other races by key public services including the police, prisons, courts, Crown Prosecution service, probation service, local housing organizations, schools or GPs. Council housing departments or housing associations were identified as the most likely to discriminate against Whites. Increasing numbers of Whites also stated they had failed to win promotion because of their race and been turned down for a job for the same reason. Whites were also more likely than those from ethnic minorities to believe that racial prejudice and discrimination was getting worse and such views were increasing in prevalence. Whites also felt less able than other ethnic groups to influence decisions affecting their local area and the country as a whole.
Hate crime

See the Hate crime article regarding statistics showing Whites having a disproportionate risk of being the victims of hate and interracial crimes.


Racism, t has been argued to have existed in numerous early cultures and long before scientists started studying race. Some early examples of views and actions that today would be considered racism can be found in the Jewish Bible or in the Indian Vedas (which according the Aryan invasion theory describe the conquest of Northern India by a race with a lighter skin color and which caused the development of the partially racially based Indian caste system).



One argument against racism existing in Ancient Greece/Ancient Rome is the absence of Greek/Latin words corresponding to negative English words such as "racism" and "prejudice". This has however been explained as there simply being no opposition in antiquity to well-documented "racist" views such that different races have different physical and mental characteristics or that one important explanation for the argued positive characteristics and historical successes of the Greeks, the Romans, and the Germans was that these groups had previously avoided race mixing.
.

Regarding why racism exists and existed long before any race research, ethnic nepotism provides a possible genetic explanation for racism or at least for why individuals typically consider their own ethnicity/race to be more important than other ethnicities/races. An implication of the related theory genetic similarity theory is that humans will feel closer and have more altruism towards genetically similar persons regardless of if races exist or not.

It has furthermore been disputed that a lower achieving group gains from denying or concealing real biological differences. An increasingly complex society built on the assumption than everyone can do equally well means that they who do not have this ability have increasing trouble functioning in most areas of life. They need various forms of special assistance which is not possible as long as the need is denied to exist.

Instead of lessening groups conflicts, it has been argued that denying real biological differences may cause people to seek something to blame causing hostility between groups. In the US, examples being the views that whites are racist or blacks are lazy. Very large groups conflicts and group killings occurred in the communist states which denied genetic explanations for group differences and instead blamed class exploitation.

Other possible negative effects for individuals and societies from censoring/ignoring race research due to fear of racism includes being unaware of research on, for example, ethnic heterogeneity and outbreeding depression.

Several IQ researchers have expressed very pessimistic views regarding the future of Western civilization in part due to political correctness regarding race differences. See Dysgenics: Pessimism regarding the future of Western civilization.'

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Racism

 

Also, in the USA the reason for racism: To keep a race of people down so that they can be used economically, politically, sexually and socially. Hence, the enslavement of Blacks and the theft of Native American's land.

 

Slavery in most cases....even today....exists and existed basically because of a need and desire for the cheapest labor possible. Not much has changed in regards to that....in fact I think in the near future you will see a re-establishment of that age old economic model. Possibly more humane but not nessacarily so.

The American economy is not a sound economy...you should know when a bunch of politicians tell you that there is nothing wrong with our economy then something is definitely wrong. When we have to borrow trillions of dollars and print trillions of dollars to keep everything going....there is a problem...the politicians....at least most of them know it..they will just not admit it.

The democratic party also needs the black votes and they get this by keeping them on the Democratic Plantation.

I see a new form of slavery emerging in America in the near future......a high tech and politically correct form of slavery that has never been seen on this earth. It will not be based on race...it will be based on non-productivity...those who cannot or will not contribute to society will be subscribed to a new class....their citizenship will be stripped...I think they will be treated humanely...since it is good to keep the workers sane, healthy and productive.

I could go on and on about this....but people are not ready for it yet...thus they do not want to hear any talk about it....most likely will never be ready for it...but when it comes...it will not be of choice but of necessity.

◄ Ecclesiastes 1:9 ►
New International Version

'What has been will be again, what has been done will be done again; there is nothing new under the sun.'

 

You bring out some very good points. Thank you, sir. But, I have one question: Would the Republican plantation be better for Blacks than the Democrat plantation? Reminds me of a quote from Malcolm X. He said "The Republicans will hang you from a high tree and the Democrats will hang you from a low tree". I guess the low tree is better.

 

Well, as we see now more clearly than ever before....there is a great division in the Republicn Party.....anyone who tries to lump them altogether simply does not understand what is going on.

For once....there is a chance that a true represenative of the working class could gain control of the party that has been for a very long time....the party of the rich.

Many blacks do understand and thus they support Trump. Trump is a populist and more similar to Huey P. Long than to any phoney conservative mired in political correctness.

Blacks do well when America does well...America will not do well under any pc administration....in fact Blacks are suffering more under the economic policies of the pc democrats than any other group.

It is becoming quite evident there is little difference between elitist republicans and elititist democrats.............Trump will rip power from the hands of elitist republicans....utterly changing the nature of the republican party forever.

 

Depends on who you ask...

If you ask someone on the left, you are racist for disliking any individual of another color.

If you ask someone on the right, you are good-to-go.

 

White guilt is something I'm not aware of other than the media saying it exist.

Just treat people kind and with respect. If they show they don't like you because of color or lack of color just move on, you don't have to prove anything to anybody.