Arming public reduces crime

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by AmericanRealist, May 18, 2011.

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  1. onalandline

    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Trying to inflate gun prices for so-called social costs is not rational, does nothing to change the way people behave, and only increases the cost to the poor in order to protect themselves via their 2nd Amendment rights.

    It seems that YOU are incapable of rationality.
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    Given the pro-gun 'group think' typically adopted on this forum, I can forgive your innocence of individualism and the requirements of freedom. You want to ignore the coercion imposed by selfish preferences. You therefore, without knowing it of course, want to destroy well-being
     
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    Why would that form of Commerce, well Regulated among the several States, not be sufficient?

    In my opinion, engendering a culture of militia service for gun lovers would be more effective, and could help lower our tax burden by enabling an end to our War on Crime.

    It could be accomplished via existing infrastructure and the common law; for those individuals who keep and bear Arms, who may benefit more, from spending some time acquiring the character of a well regulated Militia of the United States; as an alternative form of sentencing.
     
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    You talk non-sense. I give up.
     
  5. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    That's the problem in a nutshell: the pro-gun herd do not understand the basics of freedom
     
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    onalandline Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Your fee on gun sales that supposedly takes into consideration supposed social costs of gun ownership is anything but freedom.
     
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    They are unaccustomed to sophistry.
     
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    The anti-gun crowd is accustomed to ignorance.
     
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    Its basic supply and demand, acknowledging that ignoring coercion will destroy well-being. Individualism seems to be a problem with you fellows
     
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    What if we look at it from the perspective of States and statism.

    The organic law of our (US) State; specifically enumerates the necessity of a well regulated militia, which is guaranteed to each of the several and sovereign States of the Union.

    The general government of the Union is only delegated the power to Regulate forms of Commerce among the several States.

    Gun control is a States' right; our federal "State" is included.

    The only delegated, power to Prohibit forms of Commerce was repealed with the Twenty-First Amendment.

    Therefore; gun Prohibition cannot be a States' right, including our federal "State"

    It seems, to me, that engendering a culture of militia service is more "cognitively sonant" than our current regime and form of false witness bearing to our supreme Law of the land, through any effort at Prohibition of forms of rights to private property under our Republican form of Government.
     
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    Not at all. Well-being will be destroyed by not being able to protect one's family.
     
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    To have a point you'd need two aspects. First, you'd need me to refer to gun bans. Second, you'd have to assume the evidence is all wrong because it disagrees with your bias. Good luck with that!
     
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    Well you would just respond with your typical doubletalk, so why bother?
     
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    And why wouldn't one be able to "protect one's family"? Aren't you jumping to conclusions?
     
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    Thread is over its 500 post limit so it is now closed.
     
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