Actually, I am not a leftist, but I do see, because you are making it quite clear, that you are a neocon.
Banning these weapons is a different topic altogether, and deserves its own thread I believe. THIS thread is about the term "assault weapon". 'Wolverine' happens to take exception to it and I disagree. I really had no suspicions myself, but the other member called him a "she" and they are two peas in a pod, patting each other on the back often, so I thought he would know. I guess not. This does not surprise me though because this other member has been wrong about most everything else too. Thanks.
Thank you, and allow me to welcome you here. We can always use more reasoned thinkers here, who are short on hate and fear. As you can see, we need more of these here. Welcome. Thanks for that. You are certainly entitled to your opinion and I would defend your right to express them here, but you should realize that your position is not shared by the majority of Americans (if you did not already know this). Your view is also not shared by our Supreme Court. You DO have some company here, however, although I suspect that you will express yourself somewhat differently then some of those. If you are relying on these particular quotes, then be careful as to their veracity. I'm not sure about the others, but two of them are absolutely bogus....... made up. http://www.saf.org/pub/rkba/general/BogusFounderQuotes.htm
Pity, just as I suspected. You were unable to answer my questions and lend ANYTHING to this thread. Instead you responded with more wild and untrue accusations. If I did indeed say that "Inanimate objects kill people" (I didn't), then SHOW IT and stop the madness. So, once again, (how many times have I asked now?) answer my question: "I "showed" you a quote from the Supreme Court Opinion in 'Heller'. Are you saying that our Conservative Supreme Court "fears" guns?"
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep Jeeps were originally built for use in WWII. There purpose was to get troops around, and high ranking people. Weapons were mounted on them, and the quicker they could get around the easier it is to take the enemy by surprise. It was a huge accomplishment and was one thing that helped win the war. Same with GM's Hummer, based off a Military HMMWV. Should we ban Hummers from the civilian market?
@ Danct, The popularity of my opinions does not concern me - I am quite confident that future events will prove my points for me I look forward to our future discussions. P.S. If those quotes are indeed bogus - my apologies. It's easy enough to find other quotes though =p
No i am not i am American who understands if we do not fight Islam then like Nazism then lots of people will die
Actually your the one wrong about everything and when obama and his Muslim cabal are on trial for treason do not cry. the term Assault weapon was started by leftest who hate the bill of rights and constitution as evidenced by them supporting the 9/11 victory mosque
they do not fear guns like the 2 liberal SS members do such the La Raza Leader. the right to bear arms is a individual right just as free speech and not limited
"I don't care about crime, I just want to get the guns." Senator Howard Metzenbaum 1994 "Gun registration is not enough." - Janet Reno (Attorney General) December 10th, 1993 "[the United States] can't be so fixed on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans." - President Bill Clinton, Piscataway, NJ March 1, 1993 "We're here to tell the NRA their nightmare is true! We're going to hammer guns on the anvil of relentless legislative strategy. We're going to beat guns into submission!" - NY Representative Charles Schumer November 30, 1993 "The American people must be willing to give up a degree of personal privacy in exchange for safety and security." - Louis Freeh 1993 (FBI director) "The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so." -- Adolf Hitler (1889-1945), April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitlers Tischegesprache Im Fuhrerhauptquartier 1941-1942. [Hitler's Table-Talk at the Fuhrer's Headquarters 1941-1942], Dr. Henry Picker, ed. (Athenaum-Verlag, Bonn, 1951) "Gun control? It's the best thing you can do for crooks and gangsters. I want you to have nothing. If I'm a bad guy, I'm always gonna have a gun. Safety locks? You will pull the trigger with a lock on, and I'll pull the trigger. We'll see who wins." -- Former Mafia hit man turned informant Sammy "the Bull" Gravano
Well he obviously has a point. An "assault weapon" is a largely undefined term designed to hype up the issue of gun control. What a gun looks like is irrelevant to what it is.
No I am not. I am a centrist except when it comes to freedom. I detest all forms of infringement on ALL freedom, including that of gun ownership.
So, the jeep itself wasn't designed to "kill", it was designed to transport the military. Your claim that it was designed to kill is certainly a stretch, friend. Why are you trying to bring "bans" into the conversation? Did I advocate that?
What sort of "future events" pray tell? Please don't go all apocalyptic on me now. You can be assured that they are indeed bogus and made up. I'm surprised you didn't check the link I gave you for this. There really isn't any need to apologize as it certainly didn't offend me, but I recall that you implied that these particular quotes helped to shape your views. I recall that you prefaced your list of quotes by saying: "Obviously I think gun ownership is not only a right, but I think one has a duty to arm oneself in preparation for any event. I am reminded of such quotes from past great men" Therefor it behooves both myself to inform you, and yourself to understand that some of the quotes that you are relying on are actually concocted out of thin air and untrue. That's all. You certainly don't need to find others that might conform to your tastes. This compels me to ask you if the tail is wagging the dog here in that are you looking for quotes that agree with your views or the other way around? PS, as an aside, I'm not sure if you realize this or not as you are new here, but if you look at the lower right hand side of the post you are replying to, you'll see a box the says "quote". If you click on this, it will automatically quote the entire post of (at least the singular member's message) that particular post and you can delete some of that or use the whole thing. You can also use the "multiple quote" selection to respond to individual thoughts or passages. Good luck!
REALLY??? Are you really asking for something that I actually already dutifully provided? It's in the post that you responded to, friend. It's disappointing to see that you don't know how to click on a link and honestly appraise the information. The link that I provided is from a pro-gun site called the "Second Amendment Foundation". It's hard to imagine, but your credibility has now sunk to a new low. I hope you're not going for the record.
What a surprise! You once again didn't post any substantiation for your claim. Forgive me if I don't take another one of your many unsubstantiated claims as anything to be seriously considered.
OK!!!! We are finally getting somewhere! You have now actually answered a direct question. Good work, friend, and thank you for that. Your answer DOES contradict your earlier post however. When YOU brought "rights" into this thread, I showed you quotes from the Heller Opinion. You responded with this: "More lies..." When I prompted you about this you then responded with this: "You show me something who fears a Inanimate object" Since I "showed" you a quote by our Supreme Court, then you are saying that they "fear" guns. This is a contradiction. This is precisely why I have prodded you to be relevant. I showed you with proof the error of that last statement, friend. Ignoring this is at your own angst. From that same Court Opinion Scalia said this: "Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited." "Free speech" would be one of those "rights" that Scalia spoke of. Our rights are balanced against the harm they can do to others. Slander, obscenities, and libel are but three examples of this. You should know this.
More irrelevance! Do you actually know what you're responding to? The other member had stated that Jeeps were designed to kill, and I responded by asking for proof. Your talk of Hitler and the Mafia is totally irrelevant to that, friend. Keep trying, you'll get it.
