At Least 12 Dead in Ethnic Clash in Western China

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  1. RiseAgainst

    RiseAgainst Banned

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    I must say, I genuinely respect the way China deals with the Islamic threat. They do not recognize political correctness, call a spade a spade and act accordingly. We could learn something from this nation.
     
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    More turmoil in Xinjiang...
    :confusion:
    Uighur ‘terrorists’ trapped police: Chinese media says
    Fri, Apr 26, 2013 - LABEL OF CONVENIENCE? China accuses Uighurs of luring police into their house for an ambush, but rights groups dismissed the claim and ‘terrorist’ label
    See also:

    US 'Deeply Concerned' by Violence in China's Xinjiang Province
    April 25, 2013 - The United States is calling for a thorough and transparent investigation into a confrontation in China's restive northwest province of Xinjiang that left 21 people dead.
     
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    Don't ever assume that still water is calm, shallow and safe. Below it may lie a crocodile or a water snake or a shoal of piranhas or worst of all, a water monkey....

    Just like the recent terrorist bombing at Boston, turmoil can be found at unexpected places and time...

    Water monkey
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_monkey

    It appears that only nasty happenings in the US deserve the ‘terrorist’ label. In other countries, unfortunate and innocent citizens are allowed to be killed by terrorists for no rhyme and reason.

    Such interference by the US State Department indirectly signals to the terrorists to carry out more attacks in China.

    China should also call for a "thorough and transparent investigation" into the Boston bombing or any future bombing, shooting, confrontation, etc in the US.

    Finally, I wonder what the US State Department will say if some American tourists are killed in a terrorist attack in China.
     
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    Well said. I wonder what would have been the reaction from the US government if those two innocent female victims in the following video clip about a past terrorist attack in China were American tourists or relatives of any member of the so-called "rights groups".

    140 killed in Xinjiang riot instigated by US-funded hatred group - CCTV 06 Jul 09
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-hDh4TgyXc
     
  5. waltky

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    Muslim terrorists arrested in China...
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    China says more arrested after deadly clash
    Apr. 29,`13 — Police have arrested more suspects in connection with a clash between authorities and assailants that left 21 dead in the western region of Xinjiang, Chinese state media reported Monday.
     
  6. MGB ROADSTER

    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    Yes, we sure can learn... Give us a break.
    What about their brutal ethnic cleansing against the Tibetans ??????

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    you mean something happen in the 50s? cause i'm pretty sure there are 6million tibetan live in tibet right now
     
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    MGB ROADSTER Banned

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    HELLO ????
    Even today the brutal ethnic cleansing continues..
    WHY CAN'T 6 million tibetans have their own country ?
    WHY china sends tens of thousands chinese to settle in Tibet ?
     
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    Jeannette Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Funny how tensions fise in nations with ethnic Turks whenever they are paid a visit by Turkey's foreign minister. Wasn't Devotoglu just there? :confuse:
     
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    really? in the 50s tibet has about 3-4million tibetan, i guess china did a pretty well job at cleansing, the population is 6million now. there are more han live in tibet than tibetan, who call it home and grow up there, are you gonna cleanse those hans too, while you at it you should do the same to israel, australia, american, canadian, and many others who all got the land from natives . china didn't send those people there, people choose there cause job opportunity.
     
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    From 1956 to 1962. The military campaign ravaged the Buddhist culture of the Tibetan people and resulted in the loss
    of an estimated 350,000 lives.
    What about the incidents such as the Lhasa incident in 2008 & the Lhasa incident in the late 1980s ?
    The Dalai Lama claimed that Beijing was planning the mass settlement of 1 million ethnic Chinese people in Tibet after the Olympics with the aim of diluting Tibetan culture and identity.
    Tibet's exiled spiritual leader also claimed that some of Asia's most important rivers which flow from the Tibetan plateau are being polluted and diminished by careless industrialisation and unplanned irrigation.
    The Dalai Lama said he feared the Chinese authorities could take a tougher line on Tibet after the Olympics, and possibly flood it with Han Chinese, the world's largest ethnic group.
    The Dalai Lama said he had been informed by Tibetan residents that large areas of empty land had been marked out, as if for construction, in the past two years. "Then last year we received information - after the Olympics 1 million Chinese are going to settle in the autonomous region of Tibet," he said, adding the information came from a "military source" in Tibet.
    "There is every danger Tibet becomes a truly Han Chinese land and Tibetans become an insignificant minority. Then the very basis of the idea of autonomy becomes meaningless."
    There has been an increasing influx of Chinese settlers into Tibet in recent years as transport has improved, but the exact figures are a matter of dispute. According to an official census in 2000, there were 2.4 million Tibetans in the region and 159,000 Han Chinese. The government in exile says there are many more Chinese if migrant workers and soldiers are counted. The Dalai Lama has said there is a Han majority in Lhasa, the regional capital.
     
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    don't even start on 2008 incident, tibet riot kill several dozen people in that riot including burning of shop WITH several person in it including a young child.
    all the stuff you mention just BS without any fact to support it. china did kill alot tibetan during the invasion in 50s, but thats about it. the fact is there are more tibetan today than there were 50yrs ago prove there aren't any ethnic cleansing right now.
    the fact is tibet is part of china, just like israel establish its country after wwii or other countries take land from natives. china is not gonna give up on tibet, so the only thing tibetan could do is leave and find better place to live OR stay and take advantage of economic opporunity.

    last time i check no country need others premission to move around within its border
     
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    If you believe the fact that tibet is part of china, and you compare it to Israel's establishment, why China is often
    against Israel in the UN ? Due to Arab's oil ???
    Do you believe that Israel like all countries do not need others premission to move around within its border ?
     
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    Ethnic cleansing is a serious crime. Please don't use it as a slogan, shouting and screaming about it without using your brain.

    If you want to learn about real ethnic cleansing, this is a classic example in history.

    Even today the brutal ethnic cleansing of Native Americans in the US continues...

    Following are excerpts from the article headlined "Native American Genocide Still Haunts United States" at http://www.iearn.org/hgp/aeti/aeti-1997/native-americans.html

    (Begin excerpts)
    ..."In 1492, Columbus sailed the ocean blue" . . . and made the first contact with the "Indians." For Native Americans, the world after 1492 would never be the same. This date marked the beginning of the long road of persecution and genocide of Native Americans, our indigenous people. Genocide was an important cause of the decline for many tribes.

    "By conservative estimates, the population of the United states prior to European contact was greater than 12 million. Four centuries later, the count was reduced by 95% to 237 thousand.

    In 1493, when Columbus returned to the Hispaniola, he quickly implemented policies of slavery and mass extermination of the Taino population of the Caribbean. Within three years, five million were dead. Las Casas, the primary historian of the Columbian era, writes of many accounts of the horrors that the Spanish colonists inflicted upon the indigenous population: hanging them en mass, hacking their children into pieces to be used as dog feed, and other horrid cruelties. The works of Las Casas are often omitted from popular American history books and courses because Columbus is considered a hero by many, even today.

    Mass killing did not cease, however, after Columbus departed. Expansion of the European colonies led to similar genocides. "Indian Removal" policy was put into action to clear the land for white settlers. Methods for the removal included slaughter of villages by the military and also biological warfare. High death rates resulted from forced marches to relocate the Indians....

    During American expansion into the western frontier, one primary effort to destroy the Indian way of life was the attempts of the U.S. government to make farmers and cattle ranchers of the Indians. In addition, one of the most substantial methods was the premeditated destructions of flora and fauna which the American Indians used for food and a variety of other purposes. We now also know that the Indians were intentionally exposed to smallpox by Europeans. The discovery of gold in California, early in 1848, prompted American migration and expansion into the west. The greed of Americans for money and land was rejuvenated with the Homestead Act of 1862. In California and Texas there was blatant genocide of Indians by non-Indians during certain historic periods. In California, the decrease from about a quarter of a million to less than 20,000 is primarily due to the cruelties and wholesale massacres perpetrated by the miners and early settlers. Indian education began with forts erected by Jesuits, in which indigenous youths were incarcerated, indoctrinated with non-indigenous Christian values, and forced into manual labor. These children were forcibly removed from their parents by soldiers and many times never saw their families until later in their adulthood....

    Probably one of the most ruinous acts to the Indians was the disappearance of the buffalo. For the Indians who lived on the Plains, life depended on the buffalo. At the beginning of the nineteenth century, there were an estimated forty million buffalo, but between 1830 and 1888 there was a rapid, systematic extermination culminating in the sudden slaughter of the only two remaining Plain herds. By around 1895, the formerly vast buffalo populations were practically extinct. The slaughter occurred because of the economic value of buffalo hides to Americans and because the animals were in the way of the rapidly westward expanding population. The end result was widescale starvation and the social and cultural disintegration of many Plains tribes.... (End excerpts)

    ETHNIC CLEANSING?
    http://www.dickshovel.com/cleansing.html
     
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    Well said.

    Clap, clap, clap....
     
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    lol, I have learned about 3 real ethnic cleansing events - one that happened to the Jews in Europe in WWII, second
    was the deportation of 850000 jews from Arab countries between 1948-1973 ( the jewish Nakba ), third was in Kuwait
    when they deported palestinians.
    Ethnic cleansing is a serious crime, tell it to the Muslim Occupiers in Europe.
     
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    If you have learned about 3 real ethnic cleansing events, it's time for you to return to your school to learn more about the history of ethnic cleansing.

    I am sure they have heard your message loud and clear.

    It won't be surprising that some of them will come here soon to bombard you with their "heavy guns".
     
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    So how is that diversity working out?
    This is communist China. If they are unnable to make everyone get along, I do not think a progressive socialist government will have any better luck. A hundred years from now, Europe may have tensions and problems very similar to what has long been going on in many other regions of the world.
     
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    It won't take a hundred years for Europe to have tensions and problems very similar to what has long been going on in many other regions of the world.

    You seem not to have heard what Roadster was saying:

    "Ethnic cleansing is a serious crime, tell it to the Muslim Occupiers in Europe."

    Very sorry, I have to act as his mouthpiece for a moment.
     
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    its not a fact, its the truth, how many country recognize tibet is NOT part of china now vs how many countries support a palestinian state vs how many recognize israel is a country in middle east established after WWII!!! china like many country support a palastinian state, but recognize israel state, and where did israel got their land from? about the same time CCP got the tibet. do you think israel will allow palastinian to re-acquire their land? do you think china will allow tibet independce. these two case can draw a parallel
     

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