At least 3 children and 3 adults killed in Nashville elementary school shooting

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    Arrest is not enforcement. Why in the hell do you think California has such a problem with "Petty Theft"? They know that even if the cops arrest them, it means nothing. The DA will not prosecute so they are free to continue on as if nothing ever happened.
     
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    Were those specifically protected as part of the Bill of Rights?
     
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    And it violates the constitution.
     
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    Being in California it is even worse. Yes, some areas (mostly deep blue areas) have extreme leftists D.A. who refuse to enforce the law as written and lawfully enacted. That is true (though thankfully not in my city or county). The bigger problem is radical leftists passed "criminal justice reform" which gutted a whole host of laws turning felonies into misdemeanors and misdemeanors into infractions.

    That is how stealing less than $950 in a single go became just a ticketable infection without any jail time. So now we have organized retail theft gangs, mostly run by black gangs, who now spend all day every day driving from store to store doing smash and grabs or just flash mob type thefts. As long as each person only grabs $949.99 worth of stuff each the worst they can get is a ticket.

    But when you have gangs of a dozen going store to store you quickly can destroy whole businesses. This is happening every where radical leftists passed "criminal justice reform" or where radical leftist D.A.s let people loot and riots for "social justice". Now even the big chains are closing and abandoning those lawless areas while the mom and pop places never survived the looting, arson, and endless retail theft.

    You can bet in five years the usual leftist suspects will be whining about "food deserts" and claiming that mythical "racism" is to blame. The hard truth is black crime and riots by violent radical leftist groups like Antifa put those businesses out of business. No one will come back for years too because it will be to expensive to get insurance in those lawless areas.
     
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    The only "harassment" that is there, is lawful owners not being able to give/sell etc a weapon to a criminal. And this is happening on such a scale that I've been able to source that states with such weak gun laws are exporting weapons owned by criminals to other states.
     
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    That's just an other way of saying that you're a supporter of private sale to criminals / mentally insane / terrorists.
     
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    Do you know what the equal protection clause is and did you notice that the one statement you responded to was part of a series of posts specifying that limitation?
     
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    A person is not responsible for the torts or crimes of others.
    Ergo no 'the state' is not exporting these things. Criminals are committing criminal acts. Shocking, I know.
     
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    Trust me, they are not "mostly" run by black gangs. Although those are the most known because they are the most amateurish and do not even try to hide what they do in brazen incidents almost like a home invasion robbery.

    I spent years working in Loss Prevention, and I have seen dozens of such groups. And many are indeed very experienced and targeted in what they are looking for. One can even tell those as they will come in with a crew of between 2 and 4 individuals, and all have their roles just as we on the other side have ours. Some will work as distractions, hoping we will watch them as the main member of the team collects up everything they want. For some groups it is meat, others it is health and beauty, yet another may be alcohol and another targeting baby formula or tide.

    And then things vary, depending on the group. Some will even leave the items in a cart then another member will collect them up. Some may leave one at a time, others as a group. But if there was any single factor, most tend to be between 20 and 35. I have never seen any single racial indicator for who may be doing it. I have seen upper class housewives involved, I have seen gangs from 100 miles away doing it. And some may hit any store, others are very selective in where they steal.

    But do not go thinking it is a "black" thing, I have seen almost every other group involved in this activity. However, if there was one thing I did learn is that most "family" teams I had encountered, they were black. But family teams with multiple generations involved in working together is actually rather unusual.

    And ultimately, the "gangs" are largely run by the fence. They are the ones they hope to sell the goods to, and will even give them "shopping lists" they will pay a bounty on for selected items. But do not think the "gangs" run them, those mobs you see are amateurs and their thefts are more akin to robbery than shoplifting.

    And one can really see the different when they are confronted. A "professional shoplifter" will just drop what they have and take off. It is the amateurs that will fight for it, and cause a scene.

    There is even one guy we were after for months, and he was slick. He would grab a homeless guy and pay him to steal a shopping cart full of tide pods as he waited outside. If we caught the homeless guy he would just take off.
     
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    That is a fail. Was that "right or priviledge" specifically stated in the Constitution?

    Marriage was not specifically stated in the Constitution, nor was education, employment, and a great many other things. And yes, what you are saying via the Supreme Court has been determined to be covered.

    However, firearms were specifically mentioned. So their protection is not by inference or interpretation.
     
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    that's already illegal. and there are laws to enforce that. it is not happening very often. those supplying criminals know they are criminals and are engaging in felonious conduct by doing that . it is already illegal for a private citizen to transfer a non licensed individual any type of firearm across state lines. I bet you didn't know that
     
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    another bogus claim-just because we reject the impotent and fraudulent schemes gun banners pretend will stop crime, does not mean we approve of the real crimes that are committed and for which severe penalties already exist
     
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    One of the things I am finding amazing to watch is that a great many people are trying to keep the shooters manifesto from being released.

    And to be honest, I can't think of the last time this has ever happened. Where specific groups want the manifesto of a murderer to be kept a secret.
     
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    They know the manifesto will expose their propaganda lies so they want it hidden. When exposed it will force them to stop lying and inviting hate this they want to delay it for as long as possible hoping fewer people will learn the truth.
     
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    Is the equal protection clause in the constitution?
    Are you not an American Citizen? I had thought you claimed to be a veteran once? Am I hallucinating?

    The constitution is not an attempt to list every right you have. The bill of 'rights' itself is a list of NEGATIVE rights IE things the government has no power to do.
    Other common law rights, like the right to wed, still existed.
    If you'd like a detailed explanation: See Loving v Virginia. It really does go rather in depth explaining how its covered from the moment that amendment was in place.

    Not firearms, arms. As in all bearable weapons. I see what you're saying and acknowledge the nuance. Still, equal protection is straight forward. If you could marry a person but for your race, that's an equal protection violation. As with essentially any exercise you're barred from because X race. That is basic common sense given the plain language of the clause itself. Yes, that means affirmative action etc are unconstitutional. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
     
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    I don't see a problem to hold people responsible for negligence by aiding criminals and not caring about it.
     
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    Plenty of states do not require private sales to do background checks so a lawful citizen is deliberately kept in the dark if it's arming criminals.
    So illegal my butt.
     
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    how do you enforce a law like that? and how many cases are there of actual criminals buying from unsuspecting private sellers?
     
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    What scheme? I sourced that states with weak gun laws makes it so their guns are exported by criminals to states with strong gun laws and make crimes happen over there. States with weak gun laws are a source of crime.
     
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    I sourced that states with weak gun laws are the problem. Nothing chances if you demand me to spend weeks on end to find the last figures to support that in a lavish wild goose chase. I'm not going to win some refrigerator if I get what you want, and you're not paying me either. So you go hunt them numbers yourself.
     
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    Again: I'm not responsible for the torts or crimes of another person generally speaking, without some nexus of conspiracy to commit which is not present here.
     
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    One again, that is inferred or implied. The other was specifically stated.
     
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    Nobody says it does not happen. But that is insignificant to the number that are acquired locally through illegal means.
     
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    Yet another would be tranny mass killer who wanted to kill middle school kids and Christians in their houses of worship. This is the sixth one in recent years and the second in recent weeks.



    Thankful the sister of the tranny called the cops on his evil butt.
     
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    you are complaining about something that is insignificant.
     
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