Atlanta 'Cop City' anarchy sees at least 35 'agitators' detained, part of an 'international group'

I have my doubts.

 

No, the police enforce the law. They serve the government as a law enforcement arm.

 

Thirty to 35 years with no probation or parole will be their just reward. There is no excuse in this situation for the violence or the destruction. Bring it on!

 

This AP article gives me some optimism


https://afn.net/ap/legal/dozens-face-domestic-terrorism-charges-in-georgia-incident/

 

Repeatedly.

However, this event is another indicator of the failure of the police in their relationship with those being policed.

That relationship is critical to the success of policing. Police depend on cooperation from the public.

 

In other words, the fault of the police

 

I'm pointing out the obvious fact that a democracy can implement serious discrimination against specific populations.

The American south has been democratic from the beginning.

That didn't stop them from severe discrimination, actually requiring armed federal intervention even AFTER the civil war.

 

Do you think that they will be trained better without a training facility?

 

You literally blame this on the cops with that comment...lol

Incredible!

 

So, democracy bad, now?...lol

 

Incredible, not really! More like predictable

 

They have significant latitude in how they do that.

For example, in this one enforcement case the police shot a protester 3 times - and then decided they needed to shoot him 10 more times!!

They worked to ensure it was a killing.

NO law says the police are supposed to work to ensure that their encounters with miscreates is a KILLING.

 

No, it means that we have to ensure we have principles that are not changed simply because some portion of the population hates blacks or LGBTQ or whatever.

 

Sure. But, getting all wrapped up about punishment isn't good enough. There has to be a focus on the bigger picture.

Policing can't succeed if the population hates the police.

That's WAY more important than one event.

 

Thats because law suits almost force it.. The way it works in today's world is a "one time payoff" is preferable to lifetime of disability subsidies..

 

So, then what does "to protect and to serve" mean?

You need to think this through.

 

Not this event.

But, what it does show is that a significant number of the people do not believe the police are present "to protect and to serve".

 

I'm willing to bet, many were protected and also feel they were well served by the police!

 

Are you seeking a retraction now?

 

My bet is they will be trained the same way.

A new facility won't change police culture in Atlanta.

In fact, a flashy new facility is more likely to be seen by the police as confirmation of what they are doing.

 

uh, is there a link about this bit? Sometimes 13 isn’t even enough.

 

Quite true.

For instance, under George Wallace, the MAJORITY were highly in favor of his strong proclamations of support for segregation then and forever. That was Alabama, but it's not like Georgia had different views.

Ending discrimination is usually painful for those who had the advantage.

Today, we see whites whining about losing their advantage. It's not like something changed.

 

There are ways to deal with racism and bad cops.
But cops should also be expected to “fish where the fish are” on patrol and make legitimate stops.

 

Police are withholding all evidence. They claim there is no body cam footage or anything else.

 

Nobody is complaining about legitimate stops. Nobody.

ALL neighborhoods and businesses want policing. In fact, poor police presence in high crime areas is a problem.

However, police need information and cooperation from witnesses and victims. The support of the community is necessary for successful policing.

The question becomes, is it SAFE to call the police?