Australia arrests 183 for setting bushfires that celebrities claim were caused by climate change

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  1. Montegriffo

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    There is no 'climate change causes fires' argument.
    The argument is that climate change makes wildfires more likely and more severe due to droughts.
     
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    Mama said you don't ever, ever, never play with matches and fire.

    Fire is fire.

    Then when you get a little older you learn that you never, ever, ever use power equipment without a spark arrestor.
     
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    Please post your evidence that even a single fire has been deliberately started by climate change activists.
    People commit arson for a wide range of reasons from personal gain to mental illness. Many wildfires in Portugal, for example, are started by firefighters wanting overtime payments and developers wanting to buy cheap land to build on.
     
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    Have you learned the difference between arson and bushfire related offences yet?
     
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    Sorry, but you still haven't said how the offenders are "climate nutters."
     
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    While intent is the difference, the result may be the same.

    If I ever see remote campers that left their fire burning they won't breathe much longer. Then I'll turn back and put the fire out. I got to do the world a favor by doing both.

    I would do it to close-in campers that left their fire burning, but you're much more likely to get caught.
     
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    From what you've read, how many arson arrests have there been?
     
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    You haven't shown how it is fake.
     
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    so conditions are responsible not the humans that deliberately started them during those conditions for effect (aka agenda)...

    that arguement is eerily similar to women wearing provacotive clothing caused rapists to rape them... it was their fault all along... was is not...
     
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    Have you learned the difference between arson and bushfire related offenses yet?
     
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    Global warming caused them to wear less clothes don't you know?!
     
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    You should have stopped after ''conditions are responsible''. The rest is badly spelled, ignorant propaganda.
     
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    Some of those others threw lit cigarettes out their windows. How do we count them? Were they intentionally trying to start fires? Amid such a wildfire crisis, can we assume that they are just clueless?
     
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    Interests sake. Stats similar to the US.
     
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    the conditions are the reason for the fires being catastrophic.
    Regardless of whether they were started by arson, lightning, broken glass, or sparks from equipment.
     
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    “In early January 2020, as bushfires continued to devastate millions of acres on the eastern coast of Australia, various news outlets and social media personalities spread misinformation about the number of people criminally charged with arson in those fires.

    The unprecedented fires, which have killed at least 24 people, have destroyed 1,400 homes and killed millions of animals; the fires have been facilitated by extreme weather linked to climate change, like drought and a prolonged wildfire season in Australia, which has also been experiencing extreme heat. The fires are so powerful they are creating their own weather and are expected to continue burning for months to come.

    But some, including Alex Jones’ conspiracy site InfoWars that spreads climate change denialism, falsely reported that “nearly 200 people” were arrested in Australia for “deliberately” starting bushfires.”

    “That would be a distortion of the facts. Police in New South Wales released a statementdisclosing that since Nov. 8, 2019, 183 people, including 40 juveniles, have been charged with 205 bushfire-related offenses. Of the 183, 24 people have been charged with deliberately setting fires. According to police, of the 183, another “53 people have had legal actions for allegedly failing to comply with a total fire ban,” and an additional “47 people have had legal actions for allegedly discarding a lighted cigarette or match on land.”

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/australia-arrested-bushfires/
     
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    It is actually the heatwave.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-50837025
     
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    In NSW or the entire country?
     
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    How does that relate to the Google results that I posted?
     
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    I always knew. Have you learned the difference between NSW and the rest of Australia?
     
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