Banging like Chicago

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by QLB, Nov 4, 2016.

  1. DoctorWho

    DoctorWho Well-Known Member

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    The People factor means much, more People than ever have Concealed Carry, and finally, Cities like New York will tire of their Restrictions on Concealed Carry and push for reform like Puerto Rico did.

    Also, as more people have Semiautomatic Rifles, banning them gets harder.
     
  2. Xenamnes

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    It is already illegal for these individuals to acquire or possess either firearms or ammunition under any circumstances. There is quite literally not one scenario in which someone with a felony conviction can possess ammunition or firearms, and not be committing a crime in the process.

    If you wish to make it more difficult for these individuals to illegally acquire firearms, push for reforms in the laws that govern them being given early release from prison for career criminals. Push for them to be incarcerated for life, so that they cannot offend again and again.
     
  3. DoctorWho

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    What he is really saying is that by making it more difficult for Law Abiding Citizens to obtain Guns and ammo, you will make it more difficult for Criminals to obtain Guns and ammo, and that is not true.
     
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    Thank you for your opinion
     
  5. Vegas giants

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    Yes that is one method but there are many others which could also be helpful
     
  6. DoctorWho

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    And what methods might that be ?
    Do tell, the papers here won't say,
    Thrill me with your acumen.....
     
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    Already did
     
  8. DoctorWho

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    You did not, you only keep repeating that there are many methods without actually presenting any methods.
     
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    Yep I did

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    Yep I did
     
  10. DoctorWho

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    No, you did not.

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    No, you did not.
     
  11. OrlandoChuck

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    For those that may be new to the gun control forum, please reiterate your position.
     
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    Mandatory training
    Universal background checks
    Change HIPPA laws to allow doctors to prevent gun sales
    License needed for gun sales and ammo sales
    Criminal justice reform to use prison only for violent offenders
     
  13. OrlandoChuck

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    There is a new one I believe, I didn't know about you idea of prison reform. Do you seriously believe that serial burglars that break into your home, vandalize it, and take all your valuables while you are at work should not be subject to jail time?
     
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    For non violent offenders I would do everything else first. Those crimes involve money so i would take a whole lot of theirs. And dock their pay. And force them to work community service. And put on ankle monitors. And give the antabuse. Some would have to go to jail but only after they had lost everything
     
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    Sounds very arbitrary. ...... Sir I sentence you to community service for burglarizing that gun shop in the middle of the night. Here... take some antabuse weather you need it or not.

    Whats that? your buddy broke into a bank last night? Community service for him too.

    Next defendant....... Oh, I see you have a non violent rap sheet a mile long that points to hundreds of thousands of dollars stolen. Here, have some community service.

    Next...... Sir you have been charged with human trafficking across our southern border....... It's community service for you.... need any antabuse?

    How about you sir, I see your a hedge fund manager that created a ponzi scheme that robbed hundreds of thousand of dollars from many hard working folks retirement accounts........ you are sentenced to 6 months of picking up road trash.
     
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    So if someone ignores this law there isn't any prison or jail time?
     
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    Of course not..... illegal possession of a handgun by known convicted criminals will get them some nasty time on the side of the road picking up trash.
     
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    I guess you missed the part where we take everything they own from them
     
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    So no Amendment 2 or Amendment 8 either?
     
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    Nothing in there violates either
     
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    So the only way they survive is to steal?
     
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    We leave them enough for a basic existence....what now.....are you getting soft on crime?
     
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    Could be helpful, is not the same thing as proof that it will actually work as claimed. You are making the argument that constitutional rights should be restricted on the hypothetical basis that it may affect criminal activity. The united states does not operate on that standard of approach.
     
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    It most certainly does. No one is required to provide proof a law will even work. It is passed because the people want it. If it does not work it can be repealed but NO ONE is required to provide proof it will even work
     
  25. OrlandoChuck

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    Not me, your the one that advocates for letting robbers, human traffickers and extortionists continue their criminal behavior.
     

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