Do we REALLY have to have this conversation again?? Let me explain this to you one more time: So a criminal has gotten close enough to you to pull a gun on you. He now orders you to give him your money or your watch or whatever. Guess what? He is now expecting you to meekly comply with his demands AND REACH FOR YOUR WAISTBAND. He is mentally prepped for you to pull something out, ostensibly to draw out your valuables and hand them to him...AND HE IS WAITING FOR YOU TO MEET HIS DEMANDS. This means his reflexes and reaction time are now compromised. He is NOT expecting you to make any kind of counter move, and even if he is watching for it ACTION BEATS REACTION. We are now talking about what those in the know call the OODA Loop. This is that loop of time that encompasses reaction time. A criminal expecting you to submit to robbery will have to interpret unexpected stimulus to shift mental gears. He will have to Observe that something unexpected is happening, Orient towards the stimulus, Decide what he is going to do in response, and then Act upon that decision. Of course, that first action on your part is NOT to just stand in place like you've grown roots and try to beat him to the draw; not unless you're Arvo Ojala. Your first action is to move quickly and explosively, generally laterally, as you now draw your weapon. Even if he does reflexively fire his weapon at you, that shot will go where you WERE, not where you ARE. He now has to respond to your movements and your actions, his brain frantically trying to catch up to being confronted by something unexpected. You now have a window of as long as a full second before he's going to catch up. His shots will go behind you as you continue moving, and by then you will be firing... and he's going to lose. That's real life, not the movies. These are tactics that have been terminating confrontations and saving lives for years now. Oh, and who is Arvo Ojala, you ask? He was a man who trained a lot of Hollywood actors in the art of quick draw, and who would do demonstrations where he would have an audience member hold a revolver, loaded with blanks, cocked, and told them to hold the gun on him and pull the trigger and "shoot" him the moment they saw him move his hand towards his own holstered revolver. He inevitably would get off two rounds before the other person could fire. Reaction time is everything. BUT... I can hear you getting ready to ask if your watch or the $20 in your wallet is worth shooting someone over. Sorry, when a bad guy points a deadly weapon at me and threatens me with deadly violence, this is a lethal force situation. Period. There are plenty of examples of people meekly submitting to robbery only to be executed for their troubles, and I will NEVER let myself go down without a fight. I'm not shooting them over a watch, or over $20 bucks, but about doing everything I feel necessary to preserve my own life.
Men typically keep their wallet in a back pocket, conveniently located near a handgun at the 4 o'clock IWB carry position.
No, I don't. But I do keep some of my money in a wallet that is kept on the hip right about where someone might carry a pistol behind their hipbone. Or, some people carry a money clip in their front pocket... right about where a gun carried at the appendix location would be. This isn't about movies. This is about you refusing to acknowledge facts inconvenient to your position.
Yeah, you authoritarian freedom haters ALWAYS say "I don't believe a word of it" when confronted with inconvenient facts. It shows how intellectually bereft your position is.
I know without a doubt I will never be mugged or shot going to home depot. But I don't expect someone as scared as you to understand that
this is so stupid its hard to do anything but laugh at its silliness. You just tell fibs about guns. I shot for the USA in two world championships and was a finalist for two Olympic teams. The Perazzi Mirage and the Krieghoff K-80 shotguns I used were intended for one thing-breaking clay targets. They were no different than the SKY CONQUEST Olympic Recurve bow I used to medal at the US Field archery championships or the Bernadini Nilo Barebow with Win Win WINEX carbon foam limbs my wife won the national target championships with. they are sporting arms designed for target shooting period, your claims are dishonest and based on willful ignorance
do you plan on trying to confiscate our guns or are you going to rely on men with guns to enforce your wet dreams
The fact that you used a gun for sports doesn't mean it is not a lethal weapon. The purpose of a gun is to be a lethal weapon. It's ludicrous to deny that. Bows and arrows are meant to kill but, when someone goes into a mall or church and kills dozens of people in a couple of minutes with a bow and arrow, the world would like to hear about it. Skis are not weapons. Basketballs are not weapons. Even a baseball bat is not meant to be a weapon. However, when someone enters a school or mall and murders dozens of people in a couple of minutes with a baseball bat, we'd like to hear about it because it would impossible. A gun is a lethal weapon meant to kill, quickly and immediately by someone who doesn't have to get close to the people he is killing or put himself in any danger. It's a lethal weapon, the weapon of choice for mass murderers. Pro-gun people dance around the reality of what guns are and what they are for. If it is only a sport item, no different than a tennis racket, then why are thousands of people using them to kill people everyday? Why are guns the weapon soldiers use in war? You are completely avoiding telling the truth.
you are dishonestly changing the goal posts. First your fraudulently claimed the only purpose of guns is to kill. When that lie was corrected you change the argument and claim they are deadly weapons. well so are cars and baseball bats. . Perazzi Mirage shotguns are not intended to be weapons. we get the fact that fraudulent claims and dishonesty is the stock in trade of the anti gun movement. after all, it is hard to admit your real motivations which have nothing to do with crime control. Its cultural loathing
I didn't change what I said. I never, NEVER, said that the purpose of a gun was to use it in sports. Never. You have reading comprehension issues. I repeated that its purpose is to kill. Cars are not weapons. Cars have a purpose: transporation. Baseball bats have a purpose, to hit balls. Guns have only one purpose: to kill. That they are used for practice target shooting (which is pretending to shoot to kill), doesn't change their purpose. Soldiers and policement do target practice, they even have competitions. That doesn't make a gun the same as a tennis racket: it is practice for killing. You are being very dense. I'm done with you.
Denial ain't a river in Egypt, Bubba. As a law enforcement officer I've seen the tragic outcomes resulting from people refusing to acknowledge reality. You can't know the future - no one can - and people can and have been mugged and shot on their way to totally benign errands. To stand there and proclaim "I know without a doubt" what's going to happen illustrates beyond a shadow of a doubt that the one living in fear is you; fear of reality, hidden behind a smokescreen of bravado everybody can see right through.
This is pathetically sad. Pretty much ANYTHING can be used as a weapon. Guns, knives, bats, bottles, rocks; if they are used to cause physical harm to someone THEY ARE A WEAPON. Right back atcha, Darlin'. You are as dense as they come.
You are so completely wrong about firearms that it's impossible to take you seriously. Have you ever even fired a gun?
The law of the state of Texas provides for the use of deadly force for the purpose of protecting private and personal property from theft.
And yet the FBI has demonstrated that it is not individuals who can legally carry, own, and use firearms, who are responsible for the majority of murders in the united states. Rather it is the fault of individuals who are known criminals, who have documented records of not abiding by the rules of society, who cannot legally possess a firearm under any circumstances, and yet do so regardless.
