Berlin to provide $1bn for Nazis’ Jewish victims

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...ide-1bn-for-nazis-jewish-victims-8635196.html
don't they know this was one of the main causes for Germany to rise up in the 1930s. history repeating it self taxing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I_reparations the current German population that had nothing to do with the holocaust

taxing that population is only going to make the mad.

 

One billion is hardly a drop in the bucket compared to the $400 billion required under the Treaty of Versailles.

 

for a country with 3.6 Trillion gdp, a billion isn't a lot of money.

At least the old survivors will be taken care of. Got to admit the germans stepped up to take responsibility for what their fathers did and grand fathers did.

Ausuage the guilt and rebuild their honour and dignity in one fell swoop. Good on them.

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that treaty was nothing short of economic rape.

 

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True.

 

The same is said of the treaty the Germans forced on the Russians in 1917

 

Her obvious defence will be that she couldn't find it.

 

The Nazis also murdered 5 million gypsies and other minorities and mistreated millions of others. If there are no plans to compensate these survivors would that be because they don't have adequate representation in the Bundestag or because , unlike jews, they do not deserve it ?

 

Between 60 and 80mln people altogether have died in WW2; even 100 brave Swiss have died. I'm sure Swiss have also wanted reparations from Germany...

 

The former. Germany doesn't just throw money out at people who suffered nor did Imperial japan. Entire class action suits had to be put forth from a political as well as financial insurance perspective and quite frequently, pennies were offered back which required political pressure. The time it took to organize quorums in the respective victims areas and then return with the offer and vote on it and then turn it down took decades.

By the time an offer was put forth that was realistic often the people putting the case forth didn't need the money and many viewed it as an insult for the suffering of themselves or their relatives so still held out. As you can see, this was not something a single person can simply walk into and bang their fist down on some table to demand money for their suffering as Germany really had no intent of paying for the sins of the Nazis unless they had to.

I looked for the Romani case but did not find. I found Greeks, Romanians, Armenians, Jews, American soldiers and civilians, Biritsh soldiers and civilians but no Gypsies which leads me to believe that they never formed a group to make their case. Perhaps if you have the time you can start a web site to do so and get the ball rolling.

Here is the web site I found this information at. http://scholarship.law.berkeley.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1206&context=bjil

 

If I understand the above sentences correctly I tend to disagree. I would say Germany went to war as in WW2 because of events at the close of WW1. The reparations for WW1 were 33 billion dollars, which is equal to trillions of todays dollars, maybe I ddint do the mathy or reasearch). Anyway to shorten this up, Germany printed money like crazy which = wild hyper-inflation, which paved the way for the Nazi party and HITLER. The end was near... kind of and the Jews suffered because of Hitlers need for a scapegoat. and hate for the Jewish opeople and other undisrerables..

That kind of cash, the kind with more than six zeros, i.e. a thousands of millions of dollars will make the German Jewish people*, 'the victims' very, very happy! It’s a compassionate gesture by the modern German people, or as you may suggest the german people's LEADERS. As you said the german people of today have little connection WW2 crimes, so it makes the cash even more of a ethical and good deed!

God bless the Victims and those that suffered horribly by odium’s hand and by the minds of insanity.

reva

 

So true. No amount of money can rectify this sort of thing however, one has to look at it from the point where an end must come for all be they victims, perps, sons and daughters of both and, it has to be something more than 'Doh! Sorry 'bout that.'

Right now, Iraq is crippled economically paying back Kuwait for reparations from the Gulf War and ..... money lent during the Iran Iraq war even though the government has changed in Iraq. In that casae it is more about money than feelings and lost lives so there is a difference I believe.

Amen.

 

Persistant repentance will only lead to resent. The jews historically have a unparalleled freedom and situation in eursince the end of WW2. they shouldn't push too much for the Shoa cries. People are getting tired out, even if they can't speak it trough memorial anti-negationist laws.

If they try to make jews "more equal" than other that will end up badly.

 

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I see. So they are given the same rights as freed slaves in the US. How generous!

How about the word 'Jew' is never mentioned in anything but a religious sense same as nobody walks around pointing fingers at Hari Krishnas or Buddhists. That is all I think they are looking for. It seems it is the non Jews who make it about Jews.

 

So what happens when the final "survivor" takes the big sleep? How are they going to keep the wound festering? I suppose until there is a Holocaust™ museum in every gentile cul-de-sac there is plenty to keep the dream alive.

 

The Holocaust is a fact and it occurred and compensation has been payed so this ends the 'wound' unless of course some feel it did not occur and persecution of any peoples is permissable in which case they only need to look at what man is capable of which is why it must remain part of history.

 

They are losing support for their cause because they have overplayed their hand and created an industry out of The Holocaust™. They tried to make it SHOAH, a uniquely Jewish tragedy and in doing so have shown themselves to be pimps for misinformation and addicted to sympathy.

 

They don't have a cause save what the rest of NORMAL humanity has and that is that the Holocaust must be remembered. Unless of course one believes that an historical event whereby entire blocks of humanity be systematically exterminated for their ethnicity is permissible and should be allowed to happen again.

As for being uniquely Jewish were you not aware that homosexuals, Gypsies, Poles and vagrants were also killed in this fashion? If you were not then possibly you might do some research at your local library. In any case, six million Jews were systematically murdered along with another six million of the above. If the Poles wish to open a Holocaust museum then they may do so as may the Gypsies and homosexuals. Like what is your problem with this?

 

How old are you? Like, my problem is the numbers have been twisted beyond any sense of reality. My other problem is, why the hell is there a Holocaust™ museum on the mall on Washington DC? Why? Give me a reason other than the same old bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Where is the Cambodian Khmer Rouge Museum? Where is the Armenian Holocaust Museum?

 

When will the families of dead American soldiers get a payout from Germany?

 

I wonder why none of the survivors of Stalin's holocaust in the Ukraine in the 1930's ever got a penny in reperations?

http://holodomorct.org/history.html

I guess that few of the 10 million Uke's wiped-out in the genocide were Jews.

The squeaking wheel gets the grease.

 

None of your business. Unless of course you are female, single and between the ages of 45 and 60 and don't look like your avatar.

Then I suggest you keep it simple then. Six million Jews and six million Poles, Homosexuals, Gypsies and undesirables.

You will have to ask congress as they voted for it in 1980. Okay, you picked my brain enough, are you female, single and between the ages of 45 and 60 or not?

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So true. It takes a class action lawsuit as well as a lot of political backup to pull the pennies out of the perps pockets as I explained earlier.

 

Garbage. Read THE HOLOCAUST INDUSTRY and learn something.

 

Six million Jews and six million Poles, Homosexuals, Gypsies and otherwise undesirables exterminated. And you have a problem with that.

My God, there are some evil people out there. Forget about the date, you probably are not even a girl much less not even between 45 and 60.

 

All you are doing is repeating the fantasy you were told your whole life. People died, many Jews many non Jews but the numbers simply do not add up. Reach out beyond your comfort zone of indoctrination and learn something.

 

As someone who is a bit of an expert in the area I can say you are simply factually inaccurate about everything. As for the Holocaust museum in Washington, it includes information about those killed who were homosexual, Romani, etc. and the reason it is there is because of Jews on the committee. I am sorry you hate Jews more than reality. But like so many other tragedies visited upon the Jews by people who hated them we will remember.